Southern Culture or Areas in Phoenix (Mesa, Chandler: transplants, income, live in)

[Hschlick84]

This is Western 'cowboy' culture (Cheyenne Frontier Days in Wyoming)



This is Southern culture (Duck Dynasty)



Completely different from each other, but share some similarities.

[Leaving Arizona]

Well, there is a tinge of what you call Southern culture in Arizona, because after all so many fled the South to here after the Civil War.

But unlike the Confederate flag wavers of the deep South, out here it's morphed into something more of an 'out west' lifestyle thing, really. You know, the West, with the great and beautiful outdoors, hunting, fishing, camping, etc. Not a thing wrong with it, and... well, pretty much what KurtAZ is saying. I too am the descendant of Arizona pioneers, but they were second-generation Irish Americans, and what he says definitely applies.

[take57]

Originally Posted by Hschlick84

This is Western 'cowboy' culture (Cheyenne Frontier Days in Wyoming)



This is Southern culture (Duck Dynasty)



Completely different from each other, but share some similarities.

As long as you're stereotyping, in all fairness you should have used Gabby Hayes as the Arizona prototype.



Which is to say all the images are wrong...

[sloguy1496]

I understand what you are trying to ask. The culture you speak of, while you can find it on the fringes of the Phoenix area, is mostly found in the rural cities and towns of central and northern Arizona. Having lived in the south, the lifestyle of the arizona rural mountains comes closest to fitting your idea of this culture IMO. Lots of camping, hunting, offroading, dark skies, etc.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by sloguy1496

I understand what you are trying to ask. The culture you speak of, while you can find it on the fringes of the Phoenix area, is mostly found in the rural cities and towns of central and northern Arizona. Having lived in the south, the lifestyle of the arizona rural mountains comes closest to fitting your idea of this culture IMO. Lots of camping, hunting, offroading, dark skies, etc.

Yes, but it's still not the same as the "Southern" culture of people who like to do the same things.

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by KurtAZ

I wouldn't necessarily call hunting, fishing, trucks, or guns exclusively "Southern". Sure it may be a bit more prevalent in the South, but don't forget you are in the Western United States. There is a large outdoor population west of the Mississippi that do NOT feel like they are "Southern". We are descendants of pioneers, settlers, ranchers and farmers. We were taught by our Fathers and Grand-Fathers how to camp, fish, hunt and generally fend for ourselves. Granted it is more out of enjoyment than necessity now, but there is something to be said for being able to provide for yourself and your family without the presence of a grocery store.

Yes, we own a truck.
Yes, we own a Jeep.
Yes, we own a number of hunting and personal defense weapons.
Yes, we own too much camping gear.
Yes, my kids learned how to camp and survive without "civilization" for at least a week...just like I did, my Father did, my Grand-Dad did...course he was a little closer to HAVING to than WANTING to .

None of my family ever lived in the "South".

That is really admirable and I think it's a great skill to have. I am slowly learning these things. I think it teaches values too. Great post I wish more of the youth these days learned these skills. There is something to be said for being independent, learning to take yourself and being one with nature versus all of the "immediate gratification" that they receive now with video games, ipads, tv etc. Don't get me wrong, I love the latter but I think you can do both.

[zumaboy]

It's clear from this thread that a lot of people don't know jack about the South...

[KurtAZ]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

That is really admirable and I think it's a great skill to have. I am slowly learning these things. I think it teaches values too. Great post I wish more of the youth these days learned these skills. There is something to be said for being independent, learning to take yourself and being one with nature versus all of the "immediate gratification" that they receive now with video games, ipads, tv etc. Don't get me wrong, I love the latter but I think you can do both.

Absolutely you can do both. My son WILL not join Boy Scouts...although that is a great organization (political infighting aside) for teaching young men a myriad of skills...apparently it is not cool. So it falls on me to teach him. What he doesn't know is I am still using the Boy Scout merit badge requirements and handbook...he just doesn't have a uniform and badges . Besides I get to include my wife and daughter on camping trips and impart some skills for my daughter as well. She is quite the archer (she doesn't like guns, they're too loud) but she won't kill any animals since she is our animal lover. I don't think she knows where steak comes from yet . The trick is to keep driving until you don't have any service on any device except the CB. Then drive another mile and set up camp.

[ArizonaDesertGuy]

heh, well we have a lot of mexicans, and a lot of mexicans drive pick up trucks and walmart is a go to place for them so...

actually in phoenix there is one of just two walmarts in the nation that cater specifically to latinos (the other one is somewhere in texas). i would think LA would have one first but whatever


people talking about racism? you'll get that wherever you go i guess. unless the population is all one race you're bound to have some racial tension.

why do new York, some southern cities, st louis, boston, LA, chicago, and detroit have more racism towards blacks than other places in the us? cause they have more black people.

so yeah, there is some racism towards hispanics in arizona, texas, LA than other parts of the country. but thats cause there are a lot more hispanics in the southwest than any other region of the country

[ArizonaDesertGuy]

Originally Posted by zumaboy

It's clear from this thread that a lot of people don't know jack about the South...

ive never been to the south. born and raised in arizona. but i know a lot of people get their info from movies produced by people from california and New york. those two places are the media capitals so obviously the rest of the country will see an unfair image of the south when its presented by northerners and hollywood elite