Sheriff Joe endorses Trump (Phoenix: appointed, casinos, tax)

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

If the Republicans can put out an actually competent, non-divisive figure like a Kasich then they will have a shot, Hillary has too much baggage and if she is up against somebody who has similar values then she will have a lot of issues in a general election.

I agree with you on the Hispanic thing, however, Hillary is not Obama. Further, while many Hispanics will vote DNC, many Hispanics don't even vote, it's a real and serious problem we have in local politics. Arizona has a large share of Hispanic residents who don't vote and thus, aren't represented by the State. Obama ignited excitement, Hillary has been seen as the inevitability (however recently not so inevitable). Every time she debates, or talks, her poll numbers drop in favor of the candidate exciting people, Sanders.

I agree totally but you have to remember that 30% of the general election vote that was Hispanic is much smaller than the actual number of Hispanics that are eligible to vote. So that 30% is accounting for the low turnout. When Bush won, he had 40% of the Hispanic vote. The percentage of Hispanics who have voted for Republican nominees in the general election has decreased over successive elections. In 2012, Romney received only 17% of the Hispanic vote. And a recent poll (albeit unobjective) reported only 11% of Hispanics supporting Trump. I think it's reasonable to assume Trump will receive even less Hispanic votes than Romney given his statement last year that most illegal immigrants from Mexico are criminals and rapists. Romney never made any inflammatory statements like that. Also, you have to remember that African Americans are well known to be Clinton supporters and that goes back to the 1990's.

I think Sanders has no chance either. He is considered to be too liberal. Hillary appeals to a much broader voting populace among Democrats. I think what you will find is Sanders will win some of the New England states earlier on because he is from there and they share his far left ideas. But when other states are involved in the midwest, south and west, they will all overwhelmingly favor Clinton and will win the nomination. The media is jumping on the Sanders bandwagon to create suspense and ratings because everyone knows that Hillary has that nomination locked. This is a far cry from the Clinton vs Obama battle that occurred in 2008 because both candidates had similar platforms.

[ftbowie]

It's really incredible that the Dem. front runner is a wackjob Socialist...This shows just how far from the mainstream that the party has become. And It's looking more and more like Hilary will be indicted....A Communist and a criminal...

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by ftbowie

It's really incredible that the Dem. front runner is a wackjob Socialist...This shows just how far from the mainstream that the party has become. And It's looking more and more like Hilary will be indicted....A Communist and a criminal...

It's also incredible that a Republican is ripping the Democrats for their front runner being a socialist. Look at your front runner, he is running on a Klansmen ticket and you think that's normal. Might as well nominate David Duke while you are at it. You got extremists on both sides

[Phoenix602]

Originally Posted by Hschlick84

Honestly, I'm not a fan of Trump, he's an opportunist and a big government hack. Should of endorsed Cruz instead but whatever.

Cruz is sneaky and a creep. At least with Trump, you know he's sneaky and can be a jerk; he even admits it. There's a difference!

[Bungle]

Cruz looks like he started to melt but stopped half way.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by ftbowie

It's really incredible that the Dem. front runner is a wackjob Socialist...This shows just how far from the mainstream that the party has become. And It's looking more and more like Hilary will be indicted....A Communist and a criminal...

Some people just willfully ignore that socialism isn't communism and repeat it anyway.

Isn't the GOP being represented by a Reality TV star and a Canadian?

[stevek64]

Originally Posted by ajonesaz

Late 20's here, but I feel the same way. However, I can scroll through social media and see tons of people in their 20's blindly supporting Sanders. My biggest fear is a Trump v. Sanders election - no one would show up to vote. Instead of people looking for a 3rd candidate option, most would be apathetic and just opt-out of the election.

I think people are tired of the status quo, but both Trump and Sanders are an over-correction.

Yeah, I noticed this too unfortunately. Never underestimate the herd mentality of either party/any candidate I suppose. It's why our country is in the shape it is in now with this naive/repeat button mentality.

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Some people just willfully ignore that socialism isn't communism and repeat it anyway.

Isn't the GOP being represented by a Reality TV star and a Canadian?

Or they ignore that our economy has always been a mixed economy which incorporates socialistic principles. And that is in not my opinion. Find any Macroeconomics 101 textbook and it will cite it there We've never been a purely 100% capitalistic economy yet many of the GOP fail to remember that. In fact, I would encourage people to see what a pure capitalistic society looks like: India. There are no taxes. There is no social welfare system. Do you want to live in a country where there is no water treatment and basic plumbing in which sewage can leak onto the street because they lack government services because no one wants to pay taxes and essentially don't. The wealthy don't pay any taxes there and essentially bribe officials and provide personal sewage, electricity and roads for their home or immediate neighborhood/street.

And what is most amusing is the people who criticize socialism in this country are the people who would benefit most from it.

[stevek64]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

Or they ignore that our economy has always been a mixed economy which incorporates socialistic principles. And that is in not my opinion. Find any Macroeconomics 101 textbook and it will cite it there We've never been a purely 100% capitalistic economy yet many of the GOP fail to remember that. In fact, I would encourage people to see what a pure capitalistic society looks like: India. There are no taxes. There is no social welfare system. Do you want to live in a country where there is water treatment and basic plumbing in which sewage can leak onto the street because they lack government services because no one wants to pay taxes and essentially don't.

And what is most amusing is the people who criticize socialism in this country are the people who would benefit most from it.

Beyond local gov providing basics like water, sewer, etc., I think the big hangup many people have, including myself, is that we feel the larger net of government, especially at the federal level, is run so poorly/inefficiently, bought off, and not run by/for the people at this point. I think that's the main reason there's distrust to give them anything to handle beyond perhaps tightening a loose screw on a door hinge. If they proved they could run things in an efficient/timely/for and by the people manner?.....I'd be more than happy to see things go further in that direction.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by stevek64

Beyond local gov providing basics like water, sewer, etc., I think the big hangup many people have, including myself, is that we feel the larger net of government, especially at the federal level, is run so poorly/inefficiently, bought off, and not run by/for the people at this point. I think that's the main reason there's distrust to give them anything to handle beyond perhaps tightening a loose screw on a door hinge. If they proved they could run things in an efficient/timely/for and by the people manner?.....I'd be more than happy to see things go further in that direction.

If that were the actual response by rhetoric and representatives, then that might be something that could happen.

IRL, and amongst the majority of the electorate, Socialism=Herpes and needs to be abolished before we turn into North Korea.