Kyrene school district -- A warning to anyone planning to move here (fit in, 2014)

[fluffythewondercat]

I'm getting the impression special snowflakes melt in the desert sun.

[Jkgourmet]

Originally Posted by Samsara19

I'm just going from what I've heard.

So you joined this forum just to make a complaint based just on what you've heard?????

Incredible

[Samsara19]

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

I'm getting the impression special snowflakes melt in the desert sun.

Hardly. I'm not a SJW. I just don't appreciate corrupt PUBLIC systems that deal in quid pro quo arrangements.

But, as I said earlier, lots of people are OK with that. It is, after all, the way many schools have operated over time.

I just think the system should belong to everyone who pays taxes, not just the brown noses.

My prediction is that schools dealing in this kind of nonsense will choke and die as competition in the educational marketplace increases.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Samsara19

Hardly. I'm not a SJW. I just don't appreciate corrupt PUBLIC systems that deal in quid pro quo arrangements.

But, as I said earlier, lots of people are OK with that. It is, after all, the way many schools have operated over time.

I just think the system should belong to everyone who pays taxes, not just the brown noses.

My prediction is that schools dealing in this kind of nonsense will choke and die as competition in the educational marketplace increases.

Elaborate what is the quid pro quo arrangement?

[Samsara19]

Originally Posted by Jkgourmet

So you joined this forum just to make a complaint based just on what you've heard?????

Incredible

Heard, witnessed and experienced. Try reading next time.

[Samsara19]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

Elaborate what is the quid pro quo arrangement?

I've already outlined that pretty clearly. The school favors children that can boost their scores and parents who are connected/heavily invested in the school. Average or unknown kids receive fewer opportunities in the form of less desirable teachers/classroom placements and therefore outcomes. It's really not hard to see how that's a something for something arrangement that stacks decks.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by Samsara19

I'm just going from what I've heard. I've made tracks and ditched this school system, but that was my understanding of the situation as it is. Look around on this very same forum and you'll find similar statements about experiences where children who didn't put a feather in the district cap weren't given fair play.

Originally Posted by Jkgourmet

So you joined this forum just to make a complaint based just on what you've heard?????

Incredible

Originally Posted by Samsara19

Heard, witnessed and experienced. Try reading next time.

She's just quoting your words, that we can all read, as you instructed. So what have you actually experienced, and what have you just heard through the grapevine or some other incredibly reliable source?


Assuming you are speaking from your own experience, it's with ONE child in ONE school. And, you aren't answering people's questions. Did your child have an IEP?


Out of curiosity, how did you approach with the school or district personnel what you perceived as an issue with your child? By ranting like you have here?

[Samsara19]

Originally Posted by observer53

She's just quoting your words, that we can all read.


Assuming you are speaking from your own experience, it's with ONE child in ONE school. And, you aren't answering people's questions. Did your child have an IEP?

I already said that wasn't an issue for me but one I heard of as an issue from people I consider reliable. Also, one that's documented as an issue even within this same forum. And, not just with one child. I actually have a few children at different ages/stages as well as relatives...so I'm basing this off of the aggregate of those experiences. Although, the experience two of my kids had with this system have particularly raised my ire.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by Samsara19

I've already outlined that pretty clearly. The school favors children that can boost their scores and parents who are connected/heavily invested in the school. Average or unknown kids receive fewer opportunities in the form of less desirable teachers/classroom placements and therefore outcomes. It's really not hard to see how that's a something for something arrangement that stacks decks.

Is this unusual?

[Samsara19]

Originally Posted by observer53

She's just quoting your words, that we can all read, as you instructed. So what have you actually experienced, and what have you just heard through the grapevine or some other incredibly reliable source?


Assuming you are speaking from your own experience, it's with ONE child in ONE school. And, you aren't answering people's questions. Did your child have an IEP?


Out of curiosity, how did you approach with the school or district personnel what you perceived as an issue with your child? By ranting like you have here?

Regarding IEP, that is "grapevine" knowledge, but it is commentary that can be easily found on the web, also.

Regarding my own experience, I tried to raise the issue many times politely with the schools in question, before giving up and pursuing other options. This process took place for more than a year before I decided to call it a wash.

I'm not ranting, I'm stating my opinion of my experience and what I saw. Teacher placement and access to certain additional benefits belonged to those willing to game the system. That's really not right in my opinion. I don't care if it's a minority opinion.