The barrios/indian streets seem to be the next area for gentrification

[asufan]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

I would not be surprised if in the future (10-15 years from now) they start talking about building the next Cardinals stadium somewhere over there so that it's location is more centralized and it will be easier to attract more Superbowls and big named events. Phoenix will try to emulate New Orleans in that sense in which the stadium is downtown. I have a feeling Michael Bidwill wants to get out of Glendale and I know the city of Phoenix would love to have the Cards play downtown.

It's not a matter of if but when. The millennial generation prefers urban living and are not infatuated with the suburbs like the previous generation. That demand is going to create more development in downtown and central Phoenix in general. We are already seeing that but it will be even more the case in 10 years.

I'm sure the next Cardinals stadium will be built on the reservation North of Tempe, and they will probably move their headquarters there from South Tempe. But that will be a long time from now, when I've moved away

[asufan]

I think Chandler is doing the same thing, buying old problem houses near downtown and clearing the land. Little by little they are assembling land I'm sure for 1.future development and 2. to clean up the crime/blight the old shacks bring in.

[cjseliga]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

I would not be surprised if in the future (10-15 years from now) they start talking about building the next Cardinals stadium somewhere over there so that it's location is more centralized and it will be easier to attract more Superbowls and big named events. Phoenix will try to emulate New Orleans in that sense in which the stadium is downtown. I have a feeling Michael Bidwill wants to get out of Glendale and I know the city of Phoenix would love to have the Cards play downtown.

I realize the Washington/Priest location in Tempe was in the direct path of runway 8/26 and the FAA wouldn't allow them to build it there, but I think that would have been a great location instead of Glendale, oh well.

As for future Super Bowls, it's going to get even harder with the opening of new Minneapolis stadium (hosting Super Bowl 52, although I don"t seem them returning as often as southern locations, kind of like Ford Field hosting in 2006 and nothing since), the new Atlanta stadium (hosting Super Bowl 53), the newly renovated Miami Stadium (hosting Super Bowl 54), the new LA stadium (hosting Super Bowl 55) and possibly a new San Diego and/or Las Vegas stadium. I'm not saying the Valley will never host again, they probably will, but it will be more of a every 10 or 12 years or longer, with all of the new stadiums out there and in warm southern climates.

[TempeAZnative]

Wonder if this is part of 19 North revitalization along the new light rail extention.

[ScottsdaleMark]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

I don't think we will see a return of crime to downtown again because of society's view of urban living which changed from being seen as undesirable to currently viewed as "trendy". As a result, housing is not affordable which forces many of the poor to relocate to poor suburbs. In the past, the middle class moved out of the city and formed suburbs to essentially isolate themselves from the poor. This occurred in the 70's and 80's. The reverse is now happening.

That's why even some of the perceived "attack of the college kids" is an overstated fear because they can't afford to live in downtown. There is not a lot of rental property and the condos are expensive. Where are they going to live?

Thank you, great point about affordability. I tried to rep you but says I couldn't again yet.

I remember reading some articles during the time of the troubles in Ferguson, MO, about how poverty had become more suburbanized and suburbs like Ferguson had undergone major changes as such over the years.

[asufan]

Originally Posted by cjseliga

I realize the Washington/Priest location in Tempe was in the direct path of runway 8/26 and the FAA wouldn't allow them to build it there, but I think that would have been a great location instead of Glendale, oh well.
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It was a City of Phoenix councilwoman that led the effort, Bilsteen or something. She was upset that Phoenix lost out to Tempe for the stadium and raised the issue after construction already started. John F Long donated the land in the middle of nowhere and here we are now.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by asufan

It was a City of Phoenix councilwoman that led the effort, Bilsteen or something. She was upset that Phoenix lost out to Tempe for the stadium and raised the issue after construction already started. John F Long donated the land in the middle of nowhere and here we are now.

You mean the same John F Long who gave us Scaryvale?

[swbrotha100]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

You mean the same John F Long who gave us Scaryvale?

In fairness, John F Long developed Maryvale in the 1950s and 1960s. It was a lot different back then than it is now.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

You mean the same John F Long who gave us Scaryvale?

Few people cared more about this town than John F. Long. We could use more like him.