Much too cold for my taste, but this is what you wanted. (Phoenix: 2013, home)

[Prickly Pear]

Originally Posted by ElleTea

I was at the mechanic getting an oil change early Saturday and the TV was tuned to whatever the good morning news show is that is on (I never watch those type of shows so I am not sure of the name) and they were out at various locations around the valley doing this and that. Everyone was bundled up like it was frigid out and everyone was talking about how cold it was. Winter coats, hats, gloves, scarves! They were talking to people that camped out for the ASU game and were talking about how brave they were to be out there in the COLD like that...because it was in the 40s.

I don't like the cold, and I agree it feels cold right now, but I had to laugh at these people acting like they were literally going to freeze to death because of the weather. I was wearing jeans and a tshirt and a hoodie, but I was far from bundled up when I left the house. Once my car was done, my hoodie came off as I left to run my other errands.

Would I prefer warmer? Of course. Is this frigid-I-am-going-to-die-of-frostbite cold like they were acting like? Not by a long shot.

We sure are funny, aren't we

To be fair though when I see people from cold places like Minnesota or something visit us during the summer I like to laugh at them complain about the heat and sweat through their clothes.... I mean I do it but I know how to handle it to make it as pleasant as possible. Watching them struggle with our high summer temps is laughable to me as someone who is experienced. Just like they laugh at us with the 40s, we laugh at them with the 100s. It's all balanced at the end.

[ElleTea]

Originally Posted by Prickly Pear

We sure are funny, aren't we

To be fair though when I see people from cold places like Minnesota or something visit us during the summer I like to laugh at them complain about the heat and sweat through their clothes.... I mean I do it but I know how to handle it to make it as pleasant as possible. Watching them struggle with our high summer temps is laughable to me as someone who is experienced. Just like they laugh at us with the 40s, we laugh at them with the 100s. It's all balanced at the end.

Definitely funny!

This is my 4th winter here and while I would like it to be warmer, I have yet to feel really cold here. I've not worn anything heavier than a hoodie or wool pea coat (which isn't much warmer than a hoodie). I can't imagine I ever will!

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by Prickly Pear

We sure are funny, aren't we

To be fair though when I see people from cold places like Minnesota or something visit us during the summer I like to laugh at them complain about the heat and sweat through their clothes.... I mean I do it but I know how to handle it to make it as pleasant as possible. Watching them struggle with our high summer temps is laughable to me as someone who is experienced. Just like they laugh at us with the 40s, we laugh at them with the 100s. It's all balanced at the end.

You shoulda seen my family visiting in June this year (from IL), when we hit that near-record high of 120 degrees in parts of the Valley. Their reddened faces of despair said a million words w/o having to say one word at all.

[gbpakrfan]

People say San Diego has the most perfect weather in the country. Last New Year's we were out there to see Wisconsin play USC in the Holiday Bowl. Let me tell you, even though we're from Wisconsin, sitting out there at night in 30-degree temps with blankets, parkas, gloves, hats was one of the coldest nights we have experienced in a long, long time.

We went back to WI for Thanksgiving and every day was cloudy/rainy/drizzly/damp. Couldn't wait to get back to AZ for the sun. Yes, it's chilly at night now, but we'll take it.

[asufan]

Originally Posted by gbpakrfan

People say San Diego has the most perfect weather in the country. Last New Year's we were out there to see Wisconsin play USC in the Holiday Bowl. Let me tell you, even though we're from Wisconsin, sitting out there at night in 30-degree temps with blankets, parkas, gloves, hats was one of the coldest nights we have experienced in a long, long time.

We went back to WI for Thanksgiving and every day was cloudy/rainy/drizzly/damp. Couldn't wait to get back to AZ for the sun. Yes, it's chilly at night now, but we'll take it.

I looked in the almanac and the low temperature in SD that day was 43 (high in the 60's), which is just a few below normal. San Diego really does have great weather with highs all year typically in the 60's or 70's and in the Summer the lows are rarely much less than the highs. At night by the coast though, it is sweatshirt weather, even in the Summer (which is refreshing when it's 115 back in AZ) My wife is always cold in San Diego but I prefer the temps there.

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by asufan

I looked in the almanac and the low temperature in SD that day was 43 (high in the 60's), which is just a few below normal. San Diego really does have great weather with highs all year typically in the 60's or 70's and in the Summer the lows are rarely much less than the highs. At night by the coast though, it is sweatshirt weather, even in the Summer (which is refreshing when it's 115 back in AZ) My wife is always cold in San Diego but I prefer the temps there.

Theres not much better than leaving 115-degree PHX and arriving in 76-degree Santa Barbara in the middle of June.

[ScottsdaleMark]

Originally Posted by asufan

I looked in the almanac and the low temperature in SD that day was 43 (high in the 60's), which is just a few below normal. San Diego really does have great weather with highs all year typically in the 60's or 70's and in the Summer the lows are rarely much less than the highs. At night by the coast though, it is sweatshirt weather, even in the Summer (which is refreshing when it's 115 back in AZ) My wife is always cold in San Diego but I prefer the temps there.

It is the high humidity (and sometimes also mist/fog/rain) that can make those California nights more bone-chilling than the temperature might imply. I've had similar experiences as the poster who was so chilled at night in the Holiday Bowl. A dry cold is not going to penetrate you in quite the same way that a very moist cold of the same temperature will; it's the same general idea as why it can be so miserable being out on a boat in the ocean if you're in a place with cold seas.

From USA TODAY: "Thermal conductivity increases as relative humidity increases, so body heat is more quickly lost in more humid conditions, making one feel colder. All other conditions being equal, a cold day with rain and/or fog feels colder than a dry day."

[asufan]

Originally Posted by ScottsdaleMark

It is the high humidity (and sometimes also mist/fog/rain) that can make those California nights more bone-chilling than the temperature might imply. I've had similar experiences as the poster who was so chilled at night in the Holiday Bowl. A dry cold is not going to penetrate you in quite the same way that a very moist cold of the same temperature will; it's the same general idea as why it can be so miserable being out on a boat in the ocean if you're in a place with cold seas.

From USA TODAY: "Thermal conductivity increases as relative humidity increases, so body heat is more quickly lost in more humid conditions, making one feel colder. All other conditions being equal, a cold day with rain and/or fog feels colder than a dry day."

I don't know about all that but San Diego isn't really humid IMO, but hell I felt so cold at my boys baseball game the other night I thought my hands were gonna fall off, felt like it was freezing out. Got in the car and the temp was in the low 50's.

[InchingWest]

Originally Posted by ElleTea

It may be colder elsewhere but that is completely irrelevant to what is happening here. It's cold HERE, I don't care if it is colder someplace else! I hate that argument!

Thankful for chihuahuas and cats that want to lay on me at home. They are warm Not happy about wearing socks.

Move to the state to your South.....Sonora. See, no worries about cold, but even they still get snow on occasion.

Heck, even the northwestern part of Saudi Arabia gets snow. Looks like you'll have to move to Panama. Arizona does not seem to be a good fit for you since you have to experience cold from time to time.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by BIG CATS

Theres not much better than leaving 115-degree PHX and arriving in 76-degree Santa Barbara in the middle of June.

76° in Santa Barbara in June? If you had said 69°, would have made more sense, June is still June Gloom on the coast with marine layer and seasonal lag, I've spent many June days on the piers in San Diego and Greater LA with temps not getting out of the 60's and overcast