Summer Heat - comparable to Palm Springs, CA? (Phoenix, Mesa: 2013, gated communities)

[lylelovett]

Hi again,

(most likely moving to Scottsdale/N.Scottsdale Jan 2018...)

Starting to try and wrap my head around the heat... I'm currently in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, so I'm familiar with hot Summers that dance around the 95-105 degree mark, although I don't think that is quite as hot as PHX area.

I'm very familiar with the dry hot heat of Palm Springs, CA. and after reading some of the threads here, feel like PHX area may be comparable... Can any speak to the comparison of Palm Springs, CA and the PHX area?

Thanks again for all the excellent advice and opinion here!

J

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Between June 1st and September 30th, our normal high ranges from 96° to 108°, while our normal low ranges from 72° to 86°. We usually see 8-10 days per summer where the low is 90°+, and 18 days per summer where our high is 110°+. Our hottest temp of the year is 115° in an average year, but it varies, in 1999 our hottest day hit 111° while in 2013 our hottest day hit 119°.

In July&August to give you a typical day, it will be around 85° at sunrise, 96° by 9am, 103° by noon, and 106° at 5pm, then 102° at 8pm, and 98° by 11pm. Though shave 10° off those for early June and late September.

As for humidity, in June typical afternoon humidity is 12%, in July 20%, 23% in August, and 23% in September.

[lylelovett]

Very interesting! Thank you.

Do the temps vary much across the greater PHX area - Chandler/Gilbert vs central Scottsdale vs Cave Creek, just for example?

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by lylelovett

Very interesting! Thank you.

Do the temps vary much across the greater PHX area - Chandler/Gilbert vs central Scottsdale vs Cave Creek, just for example?

Yes, in the afternoon, hottest temps are in Goodyear and Buckeye, usually 1° to 2° hotter than the airport. While the coolest temps are in the foothills of far north Scottsdale, about 7° cooler than the airport. That would mean on a typical July day, it would get up to 108° to 109° in Goodyear and 100° in far north Scottsdale.

Morning temps are about 3° cooler than the airport in North Phoenix and inner ring burbs like Tempe and Glendale, 6° cooler in more outer suburbs like Mesa, Gilbert and Peoria, and 10° cooler than the airport out in Buckeye and San Tan Valley. So a typical July morning​ would see 85° downtown, 82° in Glendale and Tempe, 79° in Mesa Gilbert and Peoria and 75° in Buckeye and San Tan Valley. Due to inversion, the foothills have almost the same morning temps as Glendale and Tempe.

Though far north Scottsdale is the coolest part of the valley in the summer, it is also the most expensive. There are $1million+ gated communities up there, off the far northern stretch of Cave Creek Rd, before it goes into Tonto National Forest

[locolife]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Yes, in the afternoon, hottest temps are in Goodyear and Buckeye, usually 1° to 2° hotter than the airport. While the coolest temps are in the foothills of far north Scottsdale, about 7° cooler than the airport. That would mean on a typical July day, it would get up to 108° to 109° in Goodyear and 100° in far north Scottsdale.

Morning temps are about 3° cooler than the airport in North Phoenix and inner ring burbs like Tempe and Glendale, 6° cooler in more outer suburbs like Mesa, Gilbert and Peoria, and 10° cooler than the airport out in Buckeye and San Tan Valley. So a typical July morning​ would see 85° downtown, 82° in Glendale and Tempe, 79° in Mesa Gilbert and Peoria and 75° in Buckeye and San Tan Valley. Due to inversion, the foothills have almost the same morning temps as Glendale and Tempe.

Though far north Scottsdale is the coolest part of the valley in the summer, it is also the most expensive. There are $1million+ gated communities up there, off the far northern stretch of Cave Creek Rd, before it goes into Tonto National Forest

Nice! That was through!

[BGS91762]

Originally Posted by lylelovett

Hi again,

(most likely moving to Scottsdale/N.Scottsdale Jan 2018...)

Starting to try and wrap my head around the heat... I'm currently in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, so I'm familiar with hot Summers that dance around the 95-105 degree mark, although I don't think that is quite as hot as PHX area.

I'm very familiar with the dry hot heat of Palm Springs, CA. and after reading some of the threads here, feel like PHX area may be comparable... Can any speak to the comparison of Palm Springs, CA and the PHX area?

Thanks again for all the excellent advice and opinion here!

J

I would say that PS and Phoenix have approximately the same summer climate. The big and I mean big difference you will notice from the SFV is that Phoenix cools very little at night. It can still be 105 degrees at midnight.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by BGS91762

I would say that PS and Phoenix have approximately the same summer climate. The big and I mean big difference you will notice from the SFV is that Phoenix cools very little at night. It can still be 105 degrees at midnight.

Honestly, compared to Phoenix, Palm Springs is like 3° hotter during the day, but 3° cooler at night. PS hits 110°+ almost twice as many days as we do each year.

[Potential_Landlord]

If I recall this correctly PS has higher winds as Phoenix hence you have all the wind turbines there. Or was this east of PS?

[Bummer]

From my personal, although fairly limited, experience, Lyle . . .

Regardless of the statistics and expert opinions, I would say that Palm Springs is a little warmer with a little higher humidity vs Phoenix.

[ElleTea]

Originally Posted by BGS91762

I would say that PS and Phoenix have approximately the same summer climate. The big and I mean big difference you will notice from the SFV is that Phoenix cools very little at night. It can still be 105 degrees at midnight.

Perfect for night swimming!