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Old 05-28-2018, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
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That’s bad advice. It only takes one occurrence to cause a family a lot of grief. Birds of prey have taken small dogs and coyotes in yards are fairly frequent where I live. It’s not really something to take a lackadaisical attitude toward.
If you allow your pets to roam the neighborhood it is something to worry about along with cars, people, etc. If you properly care for your pets and keep them under your control it is a non issue.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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If you allow your pets to roam the neighborhood it is something to worry about along with cars, people, etc. If you properly care for your pets and keep them under your control it is a non issue.
Under your control AND supervised. It’s not much ado about nothing though. Dogs have been taken from their own yards.
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Old 05-29-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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So far in the last 2 weeks my 85lb GSD has come face to face with Coyotes 3 times (that I've seen). I've got a 3 1/2 ft orange plastic "snow fence" up until we can get our full fence built so I keep a sharp eye on the yard while she's out there. I know our GSD won't jump it but I also know the Coyotes could and might.

So far it's only been one at a time so they've immediately turned away and quickly went elsewhere but I don't know what'd happen if it was a pack. Javelinas worry me more at this point.

While I don't think here in the Phoenix Metro bird attacks on domestic animals happen all that frequently I know where we came from in MT where large eagles and other large birds of prey exist it in fact does happen regularly.
Having lots of wild rabbits running around (here) doesn't help the problem that's for sure...
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: AriZona
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So far in the last 2 weeks my 85lb GSD has come face to face with Coyotes 3 times (that I've seen). I've got a 3 1/2 ft orange plastic "snow fence" up until we can get our full fence built so I keep a sharp eye on the yard while she's out there. I know our GSD won't jump it but I also know the Coyotes could and might.

So far it's only been one at a time so they've immediately turned away and quickly went elsewhere but I don't know what'd happen if it was a pack. Javelinas worry me more at this point.

While I don't think here in the Phoenix Metro bird attacks on domestic animals happen all that frequently I know where we came from in MT where large eagles and other large birds of prey exist it in fact does happen regularly.
Having lots of wild rabbits running around (here) doesn't help the problem that's for sure...
Coyotes are known to be excellent jumpers. They can jump as high or higher than NBA basketball players, even if you're sporting a 6-ft wall. Many people install rollers at the top of their walls or fences to prevent coyotes from being able to grab the top of the wall.


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Old 05-29-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
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Coyotes are known to be excellent jumpers. They can jump as high or higher than NBA basketball players, even if you're sporting a 6-ft wall. Many people install rollers at the top of their walls or fences to prevent coyotes from being able to grab the top of the wall.

A perfect example of the nonsense...I have lived here for over 10 years and I have NEVER seen a wall with rollers on the top. Saying "many people install rollers" is misleading to say the least. It would be more accurate to say very few people install rollers and it would be hard to find someone that has installed them.
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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A perfect example of the nonsense...I have lived here for over 10 years and I have NEVER seen a wall with rollers on the top. Saying "many people install rollers" is misleading to say the least. It would be more accurate to say very few people install rollers and it would be hard to find someone that has installed them.
In our neighborhood the general view is that the coyotes virtually never come over the block walls. Simple reason...the coyotes have learned that things capable of killing a coyote live on the other side of those walls.

I have seen them patrol the walls on the outside particularly along the areas with rabbit and ground squirrel rich undeveloped properties. Do not however know of them ever jumping the wall. Have no doubt they could but they don't seem to.
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Old 05-29-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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In Central City, I see more stories about dogs running away or getting loose. Where my parents live, 130th and Shea, they see lots of stories of big animals roaming around. A bobcat jumped into a yard and got a small dog. The owner was in the yard too but didn't seem like he was highly monitoring the dog. If your dog is under 20 lbs or even under or around 10 (like my parents') I would keep them in sight and in reach at all times. I have not heard of owls/hawks getting dogs where my parents are, but definitely many other predators to worry about.
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Old 05-29-2018, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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While I don't think here in the Phoenix Metro bird attacks on domestic animals happen all that frequently I know where we came from in MT where large eagles and other large birds of prey exist it in fact does happen regularly.

There are plenty of large birds in the metro area. We regularly see Great Horned Owls and various types hawks in our Gilbert neighborhood, and I've seen photos of bald eagles taken at a lake only a couple miles from our house. So far I haven't heard any mention of small dogs being taken, although it seems to me the birds should be capable. Probably they are interested in meals that are not so likely to fight back, as long as they're available?

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Old 05-29-2018, 11:51 AM
 
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I saw the topic and am posting. Different state. We gave my uncle a kitten. It grew up to be a full grown cat. He saw it get killed by an owl. I didn't get the gory details so I don't know if it was carried off or not.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:59 PM
 
Location: AriZona
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A perfect example of the nonsense...I have lived here for over 10 years and I have NEVER seen a wall with rollers on the top. Saying "many people install rollers" is misleading to say the least. It would be more accurate to say very few people install rollers and it would be hard to find someone that has installed them.
I've lived in Arizona all my life, and I've seen them. Many times.

And, I have no connection to coyote roller companies.

If you personally have been to every single house in Arizona (*), and scrutinized them and verified each of them as pertains to these rollers, then you would have a point.

Until then, I'd prefer to err closer to the side of MANY than on the side of NEVER.

(*) Habitat. Coyotes live in North America and roam the plains, forests, mountains and deserts of Canada, the United States, Mexico and Central America. Some even live in tropical climates. As humans take over more and more countryside, coyotes are adapting to living in cities to find food.

Back to topic.
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