07-26-2008, 11:50 AM
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We're feeling the pain too. 2 days after we moved into our home, the same model behind us went up for sale for $125,000 less than what we paid. 2 weeks later the same model as our down the street was listed for $150,000 less that what we paid. I feel like we just lost $150,000 2 weeks after escrow closed. Never in my life had I seen real estate drop so fast. We had just sold our home at the same time (dual escrows) in CA above asking price and within 3 days of listing it. The market's crazy!
Why in the world did you buy then? All indications were that home values in Phoenix were dropping faster than I can type with no sign of letup. Today it's the same situation. Rent until this mess clears up is what I tell everyone coming here.
07-26-2008, 12:27 PM
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why in the world did you buy then? All indications were that home values in Phoenix were dropping faster than I can type with no sign of letup. Today it's the same situation. Rent until this mess clears up is what I tell everyone coming here.
Thank God for my naivete------it saved my financial bacon.
Back when I could have easily qualified for a no-doc AKA 'liar's loan'------I never knew those things existed. This was in 2003.
I thought that only people with stellar credit would qualify (my FICO was only about 665 then) for
any home loan-----and, that would be with at least 5-10% down to boot.
07-26-2008, 01:21 PM
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I am curious about these low listing prices. Are they for sale by owner/agent, through REO, or short sale? I understand the nature of each makes its listing price realistic or not.
07-26-2008, 05:00 PM
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I suspect we'll see interest rates skyrocket shortly after this latest housing bill passes, because of the $800 Billion increase in the debt ceiling. Once rates start increasing home values will fall even further.....of course this is just my opinion....I could be totally wrong.
07-26-2008, 05:01 PM
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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We're feeling the pain too. 2 days after we moved into our home, the same model behind us went up for sale for $125,000 less than what we paid. 2 weeks later the same model as our down the street was listed for $150,000 less that what we paid. I feel like we just lost $150,000 2 weeks after escrow closed. Never in my life had I seen real estate drop so fast. We had just sold our home at the same time (dual escrows) in CA above asking price and within 3 days of listing it. The market's crazy!
You havent lost a dime unless you sell now. Hang on, in time, maybe a lot of time, things will swing back up. Our house is right back where we started.
07-26-2008, 09:59 PM
Location: Mesa, Az
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I suspect we'll see interest rates skyrocket shortly after this latest housing bill passes, because of the $800 Billion increase in the debt ceiling. Once rates start increasing home values will fall even further.....of course this is just my opinion....I could be totally wrong.
I too have that feeling.
If it means my living in, say, Kingman in a 60 YO 1,000 SF house with $700 monthly payments due to 10% APR-------so be it. There is no law against paying an additional $50 a month additional
07-27-2008, 12:37 AM
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I hope it keeps going.
I bought low, sold high and just waiting for my time.. I am moving into a rental next week where its brand new and the prices are 50% less then the high.. haha
Sorry you couldnt afford you payment.. But my retirement plan is looking great. I've been stack everything away.
I feel like a vulture.
07-27-2008, 12:56 PM
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I hope it keeps going.
I bought low, sold high and just waiting for my time.. I am moving into a rental next week where its brand new and the prices are 50% less then the high.. haha
Sorry you couldnt afford you payment.. But my retirement plan is looking great. I've been stack everything away.
I feel like a vulture.
You will have plenty of good bones to pick here in Vistancia.
The two story home across from us was listed at $469K and now the bank has it on the market for $255K. Ouch.
07-27-2008, 01:10 PM
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I have been a silent reader on this thread because I didn't want the ARM I had to take over the discussion as it has before but this I couldn't help posting on. My ARM is going to reset again here pretty soon and I have been wondering if this will be the one that pushes us over the edge.
I don't know, my friend is refinancing right now (she bought in 93) only because her ARM is coming due in a few months. When she checked hers to see where it could go it was going to double her rate.
She's one of the lucky few who bought so long ago and still has a nice cushion of equity, plus it doesn't hurt to live in a good desirable location, location, location. How many times can I say it?
Def check your loan and see where it can go with your rate. The rates should go up.
07-27-2008, 03:45 PM
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I don't know, my friend is refinancing right now (she bought in 93) only because her ARM is coming due in a few months. When she checked hers to see where it could go it was going to double her rate.
She's one of the lucky few who bought so long ago and still has a nice cushion of equity, plus it doesn't hurt to live in a good desirable location, location, location. How many times can I say it?
Def check your loan and see where it can go with your rate. The rates should go up.
Thanks sable, I'm so bummed! I am in what is considered a "good local". Kyrene schools, house built in 95', by the Chandler Mall and Intel. It should be a good place but we have had so many foreclosures on my street that the comps are way down right now. One more to go and hopefully that's it, unless it ends up being mine. lol If mine doubled it would hit almost 6000. I could not afford it, I am just making the 2700 that it is right now.
I so curse the day I was stupid enough to get into this ARM. What a costly lesson. I sure hope I don't loose it to the vultures.
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Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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The two story home across from us was listed at $469K and now the bank has it on the market for $255K. Ouch.
She's one of the lucky few who bought so long ago and still has a nice cushion of equity, plus it doesn't hurt to live in a good desirable location, location, location. How many times can I say it? 
