12-14-2009, 04:15 PM
Location: La Jolla, CA
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azdr0710
uhhhhh.....
That about sums it up.
12-15-2009, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
Bummer
CONGRATS, AZDesertBrat . . .
Going to court and complaining would have been better because:
1. give you more money
2. less money to the photo radar company
3. less power to big brother
12-15-2009, 03:05 PM
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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POd_about_radar_ticket
Going to court and complaining would have been better because:
I guess I don't understand this post. Complaining in court doesn't matter (other than getting your "day in court") if the judge still finds you in violation. Then you will pay the fine, court costs, service fees, etc. So everyone gets their money, except you lose yours. Lesson learned.
Do check on what you posted on the price of the school. If memory serves, taking the course for "fun" may cost $35, but taking it to avoid a ticket costs a lot more.
Let us know what you decide to do!
12-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Location: Casa Grande, AZ
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I skipped about 3 pages..This is not Germany and good luck on that complaint...How old is your son? Did he specify his age...A person has to be a certain age to accept the summons and be legal if not yourself...
I don't believe in these traffic cameras to rule life especially when the company running them is not even in the US and trying to rule our legal system, what next rent-a-cops from somewhere in squads to fill in the blank...
I don't speed more than 4 to 5 mph if I do (anymore)...you blatantly brag and what if this would have been a squad car that pulled you over...who is going to save your guilty arse then?...ah but, but, butt
12-15-2009, 06:30 PM
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Grannysroost
I skipped about 3 pages..This is not Germany and good luck on that complaint...How old is your son? Did he specify his age...A person has to be a certain age to accept the summons and be legal if not yourself...
I don't believe in these traffic cameras to rule life especially when the company running them is not even in the US and trying to rule our legal system, what next rent-a-cops from somewhere in squads to fill in the blank...
I don't speed more than 4 to 5 mph if I do (anymore)...you blatantly brag and what if this would have been a squad car that pulled you over...who is going to save your guilty arse then?...ah but, but, butt
The OP said his/her son is 17.
12-15-2009, 06:44 PM
Location: Casa Grande, AZ
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Going 56 in a 45 mph zone . I was traveling a reasonable and prudent speed. I was traveling with other cars. The pictures show cars around me. A police man would never give me a ticket in this situation. I've never been given a speeding ticket in Chandler and have lived here for 20 years. I've never been given a speeding ticket in any city. I'm typically one of the slower drivers as I like to save gas.Reminds me of the last time I got a speeding ticket. It was near fountain hills on the highway. (A highway in the desert, not in a city.) I was going downhill and was given a ticket for doing 71 in a 55 mph zone. (Yes they raised the speed limit since then.) The 55mph law was enacted to save gas. Here is a policeman, perhaps below his quota, wanting me to hit the brakes and waste gas, contrary to the intention of the law.
Seems like you make your own laws in your own world...maybe you should become a politician...after you deal with the issues...Speed limit is speed limit in whatever state you are in, not because they did this or did that...and if you are teaching your kids to not answer the door...give them the whole truthful story...
12-15-2009, 07:16 PM
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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Bummer
CONGRATS, AZDesertBrat . . .
Yeah, congrats in furthering our police state.
Guilty and not guilty have NOTHING to do with whether you did it or not. Pleading guilty means the state takes your money without a fight. Pleading not guilty means they have to prove their case. I make the state work for my money and work hard. I've beaten plenty of tickets in court, tickets issued by a live cop. I won't hand over money to the state without a fight.
12-15-2009, 07:52 PM
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Yeah, congrats in furthering our police state.
Guilty and not guilty have NOTHING to do with whether you did it or not. Pleading guilty means the state takes your money without a fight. Pleading not guilty means they have to prove their case. I make the state work for my money and work hard. I've beaten plenty of tickets in court, tickets issued by a live cop. I won't hand over money to the state without a fight.
You know, I probably could've shown up in court and pled "Poverty". Think that would've worked??
I WAS speeding. They caught me dead to rights and I'm not about to waste my time just to have some judge tell me to pay up. My luck isn't good enough to go fight something like that. Besides I kinda figure it's just Karma catching up with me after all these years. It won't happen again, believe me!
12-15-2009, 08:11 PM
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You know, I probably could've shown up in court and pled "Poverty". Think that would've worked??
I WAS speeding. They caught me dead to rights and I'm not about to waste my time just to have some judge tell me to pay up. My luck isn't good enough to go fight something like that. Besides I kinda figure it's just Karma catching up with me after all these years. It won't happen again, believe me!
Rick Lee was correct. I am an Arizona native who has gotten away with well over 20 of these bogus tickets. I was a delivery driver in Phoenix for years, so I got lots of them. Some here will respect you for paying the "tax collector." However, anyone with any knowledge of the system (Rick Lee, Valley Native, me, etc) knows you just bowed down to the system, just like Arizona wants you to. You only got one, I hope that $190 you donated to the Arizona budget deficit was not really needed by you. Unfortunately you did not know that it takes 15 of these tickets being ignored before the state even tries takes action.
12-15-2009, 08:24 PM
Location: Peoria, AZ
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las vegas drunk
Rick Lee was correct. I am an Arizona native who has gotten away with well over 20 of these bogus tickets. I was a delivery driver in Phoenix for years, so I got lots of them. Some here will respect you for paying the "tax collector." However, anyone with any knowledge of the system (Rick Lee, Valley Native, me, etc) knows you just bowed down to the system, just like Arizona wants you to. You only got one, I hope that $190 you donated to the Arizona budget deficit was not really needed by you. Unfortunately you did not know that it takes 15 of these tickets being ignored before the state even tries takes action.
Are you just talking the camera tickets? Or any ticket in general?
Its been a very long time since I had either type of ticket, but the last time maybe 8 yrs ago was handed out by a real police officer. Just an ordinary speeding ticket but it resulted in a suspension of my drivers license pretty quickly. Once the notices changed to threats of a warrant for arrest, I paid the ticket.
(this is ticket that caused that casino story I posted. I mailed in the payment later than the due date but never reinstated since I didnt know I had to do anything besides pay, and its why they cited me for being in possession of a fraudulent ID)
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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