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Old 05-21-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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Last Saturday when I went to Rittenhouse Square Park in Philadelphia, I brought along my camera. I was there once before, but in 2013. I love their statues and the park is very picturesque. I did capture a lot of photographs and I ran into a trumpeter I met two years before and took his picture. I began to take his picture on Saturday and before I could snap the picture, he stopped playing and yelled at me.

He said, "You're a rude and ignorant person! How dare you take my picture without really asking."
I replied, "I took your picture two years ago."
"Do you know me?"
I knew his first name, but I didn't want to get it wrong, and said no. I almost took out my cell phone to show him the picture I took two years ago (it was on my Instagram). He wouldn't have any of it, he continued calling me rude. I felt very embarrassed and on spot. I finally, angrily, said, "Well, I am not a rude person." His lady friend angrily said, "Well you are proving you are." I walked away.

When I got home, I saw on my LinkedIn account I still had his friendship pending. I requested him on LinkedIn two months ago. I sent him an e-mail and said, "I knew your name. I have requested you before. How dare you call me rude and ignorant when you're playing in public. Anyone can take your picture in public." Never received a response, but that's okay.

So, what are the ethics and etiquette for this type of situation?
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:49 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Your reply should have been; sorry but I'm gathering evidence for violations of the city’s noise and panhandling ordinance.
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Old 05-21-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Well.. I carry this around with me.

http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf

For street performers, I usually hold up a tip and my camera... usually I get a nod indicating its ok. People are generally ignorant that you can have your picture taken in a public location without having some sort of consent. To use the images for commercial purposes is a different story.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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USayIt, that's what I figured. I am now working as an indy contractor for a senior center.I didn't realize consent laws before the convention and didn't type up waivers. I'm now in the process of getting the waivers approved by the big boss so I can send them to the exhibitors I took pictures of. But, I figured with public performers, especially street performers, there weren't specific laws.

Thanks!
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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I think it is unethical to photograph people, who are engaged in private deals on the street (although it is the most interesting ). But if people do public activities - I believe that I'm obliged to take a pic! Specifically to street musicians (clowns, animators, etc. ), its their job, before to do their photo I think it's fair to give them little money, then they would be happy to pose.
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Old 05-22-2015, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Candy Kingdom
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I think it is unethical to photograph people, who are engaged in private deals on the street (although it is the most interesting ). But if people do public activities - I believe that I'm obliged to take a pic! Specifically to street musicians (clowns, animators, etc. ), its their job, before to do their photo I think it's fair to give them little money, then they would be happy to pose.
I wouldn't photograph people engaged in personal things! I like photographing performers though - you're right, I should have given him some money, but I don't think this guy was having it. He said he turns away people all the time, even those that give him money. I don't understand why he's so weird about it - it's like he was trying to hide his identity.
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Old 05-22-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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He said he turns away people all the time, even those that give him money. I don't understand why he's so weird about it.
It's good idea about new thread - "City geeks and freaks"
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Whittier
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You can take a photograph of anyone at anytime if they are in public (In the US). That's the legality of it.

There are some different rules in other countries like not photographing children; or photographing in to a house from the street, for example.

Legality aside, if you're worried about the ethics, then just ask them.

One of my acquaintances does street photography, and, yes there are candids of unknowing people, but he also does portraits. He asks those people if it's OK, and an overwhelming majority say yes.

I wouldn't say street photography is my favorite, but I can see the allure of witnessing people at their most raw and exposed.

I'm personally too afraid to do actual street photography because of the idea of conflict. Although I have taking photos professionally, now, I'm just an amateur, not an artist who thinks he has to defend his right to take pictures.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Scott County, Tennessee/by way of Detroit
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Geeze..it's not like you were taking a picture of him drinking a 40 ouncer out of a paper bag behind a dumpster... I wouldn't waste my time on that guy anymore....
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Streamwood, IL
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he's in public. I'd just take his picture anyway.

I'd also be tempted to set my camera on a tripod, and just point it at him... let the bastard stew...

when you're in public, you have no rights to privacy. period.
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