US Steel "likely" to stay downtown (Forest City: casino, tax)

[markson33]

I agree about Station Square. Tourists still go there, but there's not much reason for locals to go. I hope that whatever Buncher does is not too similar.

A development based around USS and a large number of residential units, combined with the appropriate retail would be nice. It would be great if they could keep the market aspects of the terminal building.

[pman]

Originally Posted by markson33

I agree about Station Square. Tourists still go there, but there's not much reason for locals to go. I hope that whatever Buncher does is not too similar.

A development based around USS and a large number of residential units, combined with the appropriate retail would be nice. It would be great if they could keep the market aspects of the terminal building.

the grand concourse aside, it's not even great for tourists anymore. the shops are most notable for their insight into period schemes. people want other things now

[JoeP]

If the land south of the Station Square complex were to be developed into residential, that Harrah's proposeed (had the won the casino license and said they would develop regardless) it would help a lot and not to mention what prime land for residential it is...

[pman]

complaints about the lack of international schools and air travel

For international executives who rotate into Alcoa's U.S. operations, their children to continue their education at international schools in New York, and it’s easier for spouses to find jobs.
Plus it’s difficult to get people in and out of Pittsburgh as needed for business.
“Those that live here, the logistics have not massively improved,” Kleinfeld said. They've deteriorated, he said.

Stop asking if Alcoa will move its headquarters here - Pittsburgh Business Times

it's easier to start a couple schools with spanish or french immersion, etc than change the airport situation

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

It's called Station Square. It's dying. My partner's family ate at Hard Rock Cafe last night. Very uncrowded. My parents were in town last year. I showed them the dancing fountains at Station Square. The place was a ghost town then, too. A similar development in the Strip District might finally fully kill Station Square.

I won't disagree that this place is on the decline. It needs to re-invent itself and with it's location I think that could happen. The Gateway Clipper Fleet is anchored there, the Grand Concourse and the Gandy Dancer still seem to draw people. The new soccer stadium was just built and they still have concerts over there. Back in the "day", it was the place to be. Seems to me that having a Hard Rock Café built 20 years after they were popular, if they were ever popular, was a bad idea. Perhaps they could eliminate all the shops and replace them with office space.

[Strelok]

I work in Station Square (Commerce Court) and love the building its in. I would be sad if Hometowne Sports was to ever close, they have a ton of great Pittsburgh sports stuff.

I saw a few tourists (and a bus full of kids) there yesterday, but it does seem pretty quiet for the most part. I like walking around the shops on my lunch break.

I haven't looked at the HRC area yet, but they just opened a Texas De Brazil there too. Someone told me Slammers has good food, so I will have to check that this coming week.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

It's called Station Square. It's dying. My partner's family ate at Hard Rock Cafe last night. Very uncrowded. My parents were in town last year. I showed them the dancing fountains at Station Square. The place was a ghost town then, too. A similar development in the Strip District might finally fully kill Station Square.

But Station Square lacks riverside access. A set of railroad tracks blocks the way. What I like about the spot in question is it abuts the river and proximity to David L Lawrence. I see a bringing together of the convention center, hotel district, The Strip, Cultural District...even PNC Park along with making it Pittsburgh's version of Pike Place Market. And if somehow Union Station could be reactivated as a regional rail hub to get the suburbanites to downtown for work and fun...you can reach critical mass.

And if Station Square is dying out, not doing an entertainment district in The Strip won't save it. I don't think Pittsburgh can have the wharf entertainment district like San Francisco but maybe something like Seattle's should be possible.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by pman

complaints about the lack of international schools and air travel

Stop asking if Alcoa will move its headquarters here - Pittsburgh Business Times

it's easier to start a couple schools with spanish or french immersion, etc than change the airport situation

It's a frustrating problem for the medium-sized and smaller cities. Companies need good air access and other amenities in order to attract talent. That's one reason why smaller southern cities are losing company headquarters to Atlanta. Which in turn makes Atlanta expand its air services and other infrastructure and amenities which in turn attracts more companies. Second tier cities like Pittsburgh get sent into a slow tail-spin as a result. Places like New York and San Francisco are suffering a bit as they are maxed out and the cost of living soars. That's fine for executives and other high paying positions but not so for everyone else. As a result, BNY Mellon still has staff in Pittsburgh and Del Monte left people in Pittsburgh rather than move them to San Francisco. Luckily for Atlanta, it is still affordable with plenty of room to grow.

I could see though USS moving to say New York like Alcoa did, but only moving its highly paid executive staff. All the admin and support could stay in Pittsburgh where their lower pay will go further.

[zman63]

They may stay downtown, however they will not be partnering with oxford on a new office tower. I think the findlay township site is a real possibility.

Sources: U.S. Steel pulls out as anchor tenant of planned $238 million Oxford Development high-rise - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

[pman]

Originally Posted by zman63

They may stay downtown, however they will not be partnering with oxford on a new office tower. I think the findlay township site is a real possibility.

Sources: U.S. Steel pulls out as anchor tenant of planned $238 million Oxford Development high-rise - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

good news in my book, oxford should just renovate