East End or Bust! (Pittsburgh, Butler: homes, safe neighborhood, living in)

[LIRefugee]

Originally Posted by eschaton

No official meaning, but I consider it to be things east of Oakland, since Oakland is all but officially a second downtown. Thus Oakland, Uptown, the Hill District, Polish Hill, and the Strip District are excluded, at minimum.

This my non-authoritative personal formulation of what neighborhoods constitute the "East End". It seems to agree with your definition of "not-East End".

Bloomfield
East Hills
East Liberty
Friendship
Garfield
Glen Hazel
Greenfield
Hazelwood
Highland Park
Homewood North
Homewood South
Homewood West
Larimer
Upper Lawrenceville
Central Lawrenceville
Lower Lawrenceville
Lincoln-Lemington-Belmar
Morningside
Point Breeze
Point Breeze North
Regent Square
Shadyside
Squirrel Hill North
Squirrel Hill South
Stanton Heights
Swisshelm Park

[norcider]

Moby Hick:
"If you actually lived in the East End, the commute may have been more tolerable."

I lived on Savannah ave for close to 3 years, Whitney for another 3 years, moved to Swissvale for 2 years, lived in Greenfield for 2 more years. My point was the commute thru that area between Pennwood and Oakland could be done quicker on my bike. I did actually live in the East End and I can comment on this stuff from first hand knowledge my man.

[doo dah]

Originally Posted by fleetiebelle

What is actually the East End? Anything east of downtown?

East End (Pittsburgh) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"According to another source, East End is the first neighborhood in the world to be electrified. It first used direct current until in 1887 when it switched to alternating current with Westinghouse Electric."

Today I learned!

[fleetiebelle]

Originally Posted by LIRefugee

This my non-authoritative personal formulation of what neighborhoods constitute the "East End". It seems to agree with your definition of "not-East End".

Bloomfield
East Hills
East Liberty
Friendship
Garfield
Glen Hazel
Greenfield
Hazelwood
Highland Park
Homewood North
Homewood South
Homewood West
Larimer
Upper Lawrenceville
Central Lawrenceville
Lower Lawrenceville
Lincoln-Lemington-Belmar
Morningside
Point Breeze
Point Breeze North
Regent Square
Shadyside
Squirrel Hill North
Squirrel Hill South
Stanton Heights
Swisshelm Park

But I get the sense when people say "East End", they're rarely referring to Homewood or Hazelwood or Lincoln-Lemington.

[doo dah]

On the other hand, Pittsburgh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia states "The East End is home to the University of Pittsburgh, Carnegie Mellon University, Carlow University, Chatham University, The Carnegie Institute's Museums of Art and Natural History, Frick Art & Historical Center (Clayton and the Frick art museum), Phipps Conservatory, Soldiers and Sailors Memorial Hall, and the Pittsburgh Zoo and PPG Aquarium...."

[Moby Hick]

Originally Posted by doo dah

On the other hand, Pittsburgh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia states "The East End is home to the University of Pittsburgh, Carnegie Mellon University, Carlow University, Chatham University, The Carnegie Institute's Museums of Art and Natural History, Frick Art & Historical Center (Clayton and the Frick art museum), Phipps Conservatory, Soldiers and Sailors Memorial Hall, and the Pittsburgh Zoo and PPG Aquarium...."

I always count Oakland as the East End also.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by fleetiebelle

But I get the sense when people say "East End", they're rarely referring to Homewood or Hazelwood or Lincoln-Lemington.

Yeah, it's also a social term. It basically means "where rich white people and/or students live."

I'll bet you guys ten years ago everyone would have excluded Lawrenceville from the East End.

[LIRefugee]

Originally Posted by fleetiebelle

But I get the sense when people say "East End", they're rarely referring to Homewood or Hazelwood or Lincoln-Lemington.

Although that's true, how else would you categorize those neighborhoods?

The list in the Wikipedia section is a decent colloquial definition, but I see no reason why all neighborhoods east of Oakland, the Hill, and the Strip between the rivers couldn't be considered "East End". Diluting the appeal of the term by including not-so-nice neighborhoods isn't a good enough reason to exclude them in my opinion.

[Caladium]

Originally Posted by fleetiebelle

What is actually the East End? Anything east of downtown?

I get confused on that, too. I used to think it was a smaller and much more specific area, but I guess it's been expanded now to include places like Polish Hill. Makes sense I guess to just use it to mean anything on the east side of downtown.

[BarqCider]

Originally Posted by Aqua Teen Carl

3.8 whole miles zomggggg

to use a comparison for an area I lived for much longer: that's like saying Arlington, crystal city IS DC when in fact it is not (ok, it WAS way back in the day but that's for history thread and not here). its a few miles apart, the Anacostia river seperates them and its in a whole different state.

just because its close doesn't mean its part of the city. While you're at it, add Monroeville as Pittsburgh and pretty much anything south until somerset too.