Who's afraid of a Beltway? (Pittsburgh, Wilkinsburg: cost of, statistics, oil)

[Moby Hick]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

The new traffic patterns to and from the Parkway in the vicinity of the interchange would not involve any residential streets at all. In fact, they wouldn't involve any streets not already used for access to and from the Parkway in the first place.

I'm still confused, but I'll take your word on it.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by pman

in other words, not worthwhile

Columbus, Cincinnati, and Indianapolis have stable economies and have had continuous growth without being out-of-control.

[Moby Hick]

Originally Posted by MathmanMathman

Columbus, Cincinnati, and Indianapolis have stable economies and have had continuous growth without being out-of-control.

Two of those are state capitals whose growth was greatly aided by the increasing size and scope of state governments.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by Moby Hick

Two of those are state capitals whose growth was greatly aided by the increasing size and scope of state governments.

But not all three.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by GeneW

Actually vehicle miles per capita have been dropping for nine years now. People are driving less and less.

I just read an article today in the Denver Post about this statistic. While miles driven per capita may be going down, the increase in population still makes for more miles driven. I know Pittsburgh wants its population to increase.

Originally Posted by Hopes

Am I the only person who thinks of the Beltway Sniper when I see the thread title?

LOL! Possibly!

[Moby Hick]

[quote=Katiana;34859632]I just read an article today in the Denver Post about this statistic. While miles driven per capita may be going down, the increase in population still makes for more miles driven./quote]

I don't know about Denver specifically, but overall miles per driven in the U.S. is down. Not down nearly as much as per capita miles, but still down. If you look on the chart, you'll see that not even during the 1970s oil shocks did it stay down for so long.

https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/...emilesusa.html

[FreightTrainRunning]

Cars are expensive to buy, run and maintain and most millennials are so deep in student loan debt that adding a car payment onto their monthly budget is just undoable.

[Aqua Teen Carl]

Originally Posted by GeneW

Cars are expensive to buy, run and maintain and most millennials are so deep in student loan debt that adding a car payment onto their monthly budget is just undoable.

Indeed. However, there are many people that have to have a car to get to work. Right now I have a job in the suburbs and there is no way to get there with transit. The same applies to two other jobs I have had since I graduated college. It's so easy to say "oh you don't need a car if your job is on the bus line". However, the reality is that young people who want to have fulfilling careers will be jumping from job to job often. During the jump many of those places won't be along a bus line. Simply put: for many of us we have to have a car if we want to have a career.

Don't even get me started on employers that don't have any leniency for tardiness due to unreliable transit.

[Moby Hick]

Originally Posted by Aqua Teen Carl

Indeed. However, there are many people that have to have a car to get to work.

There are many such people. In fact, the drop in driving is at least partially due to the aging of the population and the resting decline in labor force participation.

[doo dah]

Timely:
Transportation For America – Survey: To recruit and keep millennials, give them walkable places with good transit and other options