Traveling in this area - outrageous Turnpike tolls and gas prices (Pittsburgh: law, vs)

[villageidiot1]

Originally Posted by Hopes

There's almost always a choice. It's entirely possible to avoid the turnpike for almost any destination.

Would you really take a different route if you're driving from Pgh to Philly?

Interstate 68 works if you're driving from south of Pgh to Maryland or Washington D.C. Interstate 80 works if you're driving from north of Pittsburgh to NE PA, North Jersey or New York City.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by villageidiot1

Would you really take a different route if you're driving from Pgh to Philly?

Interstate 68 works if you're driving from south of Pgh to Maryland or Washington D.C. Interstate 80 works if you're driving from north of Pittsburgh to NE PA, North Jersey or New York City.

If I needed to avoid tolls, I would take 30 or a combination of 22 and 30. My children have done it when they've been traveling with friends and they were all down to counting pennies and dollars to get back home. I was responding to someone who said people have no choice. They really do have a choice. If they want to save time and take the turnpike, they are making the choice to do so. They're not forced.

[katenik]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Whatever the cost is to reconstruct the highway from the ground up, add two lanes, widen the interior shoulders and replace the overpass, apparently.

Within the next 10 years, the Pennsylvania Turnpike will be a modern six-lane highway across the entire Commonwealth with the exception of 38 miles between Breezewood and the Blue Mountain Tunnel, and those who ***** about how "narrow" and "outdated" Pennsylvania's highways are will be less credible than before.

Will the also increase the speed limit?

[Pitt Chick]

I hope not.

[doo dah]

Originally Posted by katenik

Will the also increase the speed limit?

70 mph speed limits coming to Pennsylvania this summer, but where? | PennLive.com

[pman]

Originally Posted by Hopes

If I needed to avoid tolls, I would take 30 or a combination of 22 and 30. My children have done it when they've been traveling with friends and they were all down to counting pennies and dollars to get back home. I was responding to someone who said people have no choice. They really do have a choice. If they want to save time and take the turnpike, they are making the choice to do so. They're not forced.

people on 80 can take rt 6. good for the businesses

[ram2]

Originally Posted by katenik

Will the also increase the speed limit?

The turnpike had a 70mph limit in the 1940s. When did the revenue generators lower the limit to 65?

[ram2]

Originally Posted by pman

so what? I 80 was originally intended to be a toll road but the state couldn't pass up "free money" from the feds. I don't see why the "working man" shouldn't have to pay tolls ifhe's driving in the northern part of the state but he drives in the southern part he does. he's using the road far more than the average user and can pass the costs on to consumers. does the "working man" get his tires for free? 80 should absolutely be tolled and hopefully will be some day. the problem is that no one expected the feds to allow it but rendell passed a law based on it anyway. of course everyone went along because it meant they could continue to spend without raising taxes.

The working man already pays road user fees via state and federal gas taxes. That is how it works in other states.

[pman]

Originally Posted by ram2

The working man already pays road user fees via state and federal gas taxes. That is how it works in other states.

are you a cartoon? tolls are an excellent way to collect user fees for use of a given road. is pa the only place with a toll rd ?

[ram2]

Originally Posted by pman

are you a cartoon? tolls are an excellent way to collect user fees for use of a given road. is pa the only place with a toll rd ?

Ever been to Wisconsin or Minnesota?