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Old 09-05-2014, 08:44 AM
 
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Someone fighting to add a religious-esque addition to a public building at this point is just as misguided as those who fight to remove such sculptures/wordings/displays etc. that have been apart of said buildings for years.

On a related note city council members are shockingly lacking in education - prior to Peduto finishing his degree requirements in 2007, not a single member of council even had a bachelor's degree. While I know that a degree isn't everything, most had no other practical experience to fall back on outside of the political realm. I've had to attend some council meetings & worked with them & there are some really stupid people running things. City Council rant over.

And yes, I now realize you were talking about county council & not city - though if you're really interested in city council, Natalia Rudiak is on Tinder

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Old 09-05-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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Picking a fight is bringing this up at council in the first place. Once that's done the council members have to actually weigh their opinion and vote on it. I'm not sure I want anyone on that council that would silence their own opposition to this to avoid a fight.

I would feel differently if this were actually an insignificant issue. It's not to a lot of people and I'm glad some council members are recognizing that.
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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On a related note city council members are shockingly lacking in education - prior to Peduto finishing his degree requirements in 2007, not a single member of council even had a bachelor's degree. While I know that a degree isn't everything, most had no other practical experience to fall back on outside of the political realm.D
In the modern era, city council people are supposed to be professional legislators, without a regular job.

Rev. Burgess is the exception to the rule, as a trained, working theologian.

But the rest, this is their job. Its not the old days where you had working union bosses, lawyers and business people serving part time on Pittsburgh City Council.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:00 AM
 
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But the rest, this is their job. Its not the old days where you had working union bosses, lawyers and business people serving part time on Pittsburgh City Council.
Yes. There had been other people with degrees on council before Peduto. I guess maybe none in 2007.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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In the modern era, city council people are supposed to be professional legislators, without a regular job.

Rev. Burgess is the exception to the rule, as a trained, working theologian.

But the rest, this is their job. Its not the old days where you had working union bosses, lawyers and business people serving part time on Pittsburgh City Council.
It still doesn't instill confidence when you have people in governing positions that wouldn't otherwise qualify for any type of professional job anywhere else (including public service).

Though I think we're up to 4 council members whom completed college at the moment.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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It still doesn't instill confidence when you have people in governing positions that wouldn't otherwise qualify for any type of professional job anywhere else (including public service).

Though I think we're up to 4 council members whom completed college at the moment.


I don't know, how does this compare with the commissions and councils in the other hundred odd municipalities in the county?
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Troy Hill, The Pitt
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No one is hitting your car here, and part of being an adult is not picking a fight over everything you hear that you might object to.

It doesn't need to be on any public building. Keep your religion to yourself.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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It doesn't need to be on any public building. Keep your religion to yourself.
The motto "In God We Trust" isn't part of any particular religion, its actually pretty inoffensive except to those who are seeking to be offended.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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The motto "In God We Trust" isn't part of any particular religion, its actually pretty inoffensive except to those who are seeking to be offended.
No. The motto wasn't part of any particular portion of Judeo-Christian denomination, but it is certainly part of that tradition. The modern movement to put the motto in buildings in very much obviously an effort conducted by a certain subset of Protestant Christians. PA legislator mentioned in the story in the OP, the one from the party that supposedly stands for small government and local control of schools, tried to require "In God We Trust" on every school building in the state. It's cheap vote-gathering using Jesus like he was a flag. As a Christian, I resent it, Saccone, and the whole movement.

'In God We Trust' bill revised - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:43 PM
 
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Why is there even a need to bring this up? Seems like a waste of time and money.
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