2014 Pittsburgh MSA population estimates: More bad news than good (New Kensington: apartment, rental market)

[Rch1942]

The demographics do not work. Western Pa. Has aging population. This brings fewer births. Plus more people are dying then are being born. Most important though is the job market cannot absorb graduates so the young people leave. When you travel the country - Atlanta,Florida etc. - check out the steelers bars. Pa is. On the wrong track. We spend to much on education for other states. Other states reap the. Benefits of our education tax dollars and businesses will not move to pa because of unions and high. Corp. taxes. When our aging population dies and their. Children live elsewhere, their estates will be transferred to them out of this area. Our politichas to change. Texas is second most populist state Florida just became number three. Compar it to pa. And western pa. It. Is shameful. My neighbor's two just graduated penn state. Got jobs in Virginia. Will not be back. I am aware of many of these situations. FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

[doo dah]

Originally Posted by Rch1942

The demographics do not work. Western Pa. Has aging population. This brings fewer births. Plus more people are dying then are being born. Most important though is the job market cannot absorb graduates so the young people leave. When you travel the country - Atlanta,Florida etc. - check out the steelers bars. Pa is. On the wrong track. We spend to much on education for other states. Other states reap the. Benefits of our education tax dollars and businesses will not move to pa because of unions and high. Corp. taxes. When our aging population dies and their. Children live elsewhere, their estates will be transferred to them out of this area. Our politichas to change. Texas is second most populist state Florida just became number three. Compar it to pa. And western pa. It. Is shameful. My neighbor's two just graduated penn state. Got jobs in Virginia. Will not be back. I am aware of many of these situations. FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

Hormones can help with your period problem.

Also, the dogwhistle phrase is "THINK ABOUT IT SHEEPLE".

[JoeP]

We're all aware of the dynamics at play. Well most of us. Some comment on the economy and the older demographics, but not how that is changing or the significance in migration changes in the last several years.
My comment above will be described as delusional cheer leading which it absolute is not. The region obviously needs stronger job growth, but you can't criticize the region and not look at the trends... not look at the deficit the region was in and where it is now.

[king26]

I think the death rate is already showing signs of catching up (slowing down?) to the birth + in migration rate in this region. Allegheny County has always been so "old", maybe older than some of the outlying counties, that it should begin this transition first and may have since the start of the century.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by king26

I think the death rate is already showing signs of catching up (slowing down?) to the birth + in migration rate in this region. Allegheny County has always been so "old", maybe older than some of the outlying counties, that it should begin this transition first and may have since the start of the century.

IIRC, the City of Pittsburgh itself completed this demographic shift some time ago, which is why (coupled with in-migraton from outside the MSA) the population has stabilized.

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by Rch1942

The demographics do not work. Western Pa. Has aging population. This brings fewer births. Plus more people are dying then are being born. Most important though is the job market cannot absorb graduates so the young people leave. When you travel the country - Atlanta,Florida etc. - check out the steelers bars. Pa is. On the wrong track. We spend to much on education for other states. Other states reap the. Benefits of our education tax dollars and businesses will not move to pa because of unions and high. Corp. taxes. When our aging population dies and their. Children live elsewhere, their estates will be transferred to them out of this area. Our politichas to change. Texas is second most populist state Florida just became number three. Compar it to pa. And western pa. It. Is shameful. My neighbor's two just graduated penn state. Got jobs in Virginia. Will not be back. I am aware of many of these situations. FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

I'm in my mid 20's and only two people of those I keep in contact with have moved out of the area so what's your point? Someone in my department moved here from NoVA because they hated it there so again, what's your point?

[sealie]

I guess the point is it's better to get one of those crap $8/hr jobs than a professional exempt (non union!) salaried job here at $60k+. Some people are really annoyed that the steel mills haven't come back yet I guess.

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by sealie

I guess the point is it's better to get one of those crap $8/hr jobs than a professional exempt (non union!) salaried job here at $60k+. Some people are really annoyed that the steel mills haven't come back yet I guess.

I want to move to the South for those plentiful $8 to $10 an hour jobs and then there will be all of that sunshine instead of these miserable clouds!!

[speagles84]

Originally Posted by bradjl2009

I want to move to the South for those plentiful $8 to $10 an hour jobs and then there will be all of that sunshine instead of these miserable clouds!!

Did anyone see that thread gnutella started about Pittsburgh now being 15th in the nation for per capita income? Shows we are making some progress in the average wage column.

[JoeP]

I guess the point is it's better to get one of those crap $8/hr jobs than a professional exempt (non union!) salaried job here at $60k+. Some people are really annoyed that the steel mills haven't come back yet I guess

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There are legitimate concerns to be had and points to make. There is no need for tired old comments and straw men.