Walkability of Cranberry Township (Harmony: condos, commute, money)

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by norcider

Walking along McKnight isn't for the faint of heart. Ross Park Mall has signs that say no pedestrians allowed.

Now that's crazy!

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by tclifton

I'm just saying that it's a bit of a false argument to use driving against people living in Cranberry when your own carbon footprint is high. You can't have it both ways.

I can live with having a high carbon footprint if it translates to a lower carbon footprint overall. As I said if my driving 75 miles daily for work means twice as many driving miles were saved overall spread across a small group of people, then it's worth it. I think the point you were trying to convey earlier is that if not for me or our business everyone would just cook more, and the carbon footprint would be lower. I don't necessarily agree with that. It's more like those people would just hop into their cars and drive to the restaurants themselves for take-out.

Let's take Fuel & Fuddle as an example. It's a restaurant in Oakland many Pitt graduates recall fondly for cheap late night eats with friends. They have a loyal following. I personally am trying to eat healthier but LOVE their "rollafatty", which is a really greasy pepperoni roll appetizer. If I have a hankering for that rollafatty and don't feel like leaving the house, I'm not going to go to the grocery store and buy ingredients and then try to just make it myself at home. I'm going to pick up the phone and order it to be delivered promptly to my door for a nominal fee. If I wasn't able to get delivery I'd drive to Oakland and then drive back home. Realistically I'm not going to walk 45 minutes to Fuel, pick it up, and then walk home to have a cold and ruined rollafatty, nor do I like taking good-smelling food onto a bus and tantalizing (or annoying) my fellow bus patrons.

[jay5835]

Originally Posted by SteelCityRising

I'm planning to bring a similar business concept to another area soon where people have been crying out for it.
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Sometimes people who love to cook are going to look outside at the rain, say "I'm not dealing with that to go to Whole Foods and pick up my quinoa", and will instead give us a call.

Is your "similar business concept" to go shopping for people and drop it off at their home? If so, will you be able to deliver a pint of ice cream to me before it melts? I'm 1/3 mi. from both WF and MD, a little farther from TJ's. Sometimes at night, I'd really like to have ice cream, but not enough to go out myself and get it.

[SuburbanPioneer]

In SCR's defense, I do most of my shopping online with items delivered to my front door (never ever stolen yet btw). Lowering my carbon footprint by doing so never crossed my mind as I do it primarily out of personal convenience and cost effectiveness, but if it does in the end help the environment, that makes it even better. Delivery/shipping companies tend to be quite efficient with their logistics to stay profitable these days.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by SuburbanPioneer

In SCR's defense, I do most of my shopping online with items delivered to my front door (never ever stolen yet btw). Lowering my carbon footprint by doing so never crossed my mind as I do it primarily out of personal convenience and cost effectiveness, but if it does in the end help the environment, that makes it even better. Delivery/shipping companies tend to be quite efficient with their logistics to stay profitable these days.

I'm a logistics manager, technically, since I often dispatch and oversee the fleet of drivers. Since we don't reimburse drivers for gasoline usage it's always in our best interest to minimize their extraneous driving. In terms of other companies I thought I heard somewhere that UPS (or FedEx?) instructed drivers to route accordingly to limit left-hand turns whenever possible to idle less and to be more efficient. Whenever someone tries to turn left from Morewood (towards Shadyside) onto Centre (towards Shadyside Hospital) my eye twitches because without fail it typically takes an entire light cycle for them to make the turn, creating more congestion (and idling) behind them. I typically will go down Baum and then make a right on Cypress (by Boston Market) and then a right onto Centre to get to a place like the Hillman Cancer Center because it's quicker and holds up less vehicles in the process (creating less wasted fuel from idling).

[norcider]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

Now that's crazy!

The only reason I can see for the existence of these signs is that RPM never implemented sidewalks. Way to go Simon Group! There are buses that serve the mall but I guess you're SOL if you walk down from the apartments across the street from the mall.

[doo dah]

Originally Posted by jay5835

Is your "similar business concept" to go shopping for people and drop it off at their home? If so, will you be able to deliver a pint of ice cream to me before it melts? I'm 1/3 mi. from both WF and MD, a little farther from TJ's. Sometimes at night, I'd really like to have ice cream, but not enough to go out myself and get it.

Jay, I understand that Forbes Gyro delivers ice cream, it's Hershey's and nothing fancy I expect, and I am not sure of their delivery area though.



Or, you can be like me and make your own

[jimmyev]

Quit dissing on Cranberry Township. It's saved several old communities - New Castle, Butler, Beaver Falls, New Brighton, Rochester, Ambridge. If it weren't for the employment opportunities in Cranberry, those towns would be almost gone!

[jay5835]

Originally Posted by doo dah

Jay, I understand that Forbes Gyro delivers ice cream, it's Hershey's and nothing fancy I expect, and I am not sure of their delivery area though.

Thanks, doo dah. Hershey Ice Cream is pretty bad, as you surmise. It's what they used to serve at the old Klavon's. The new owner has switched to Penn State Creamery, which is a big improvement. You can get Peachy Paterno in Pgh. now.

Originally Posted by doo dah

Or, you can be like me and make your own

There are two things I cannot own, or I would not fit through the door. One is a toaster. I could live on toast with butter and jam. The other is an ice cream machine. I would make ice cream every day, I fear.

[BobMcKelvin]

Encouraging article for those of us that hate the sprawl:

A New Study Finds That U.S. Sprawl Peaked Around 1994 - CityLab