Suburb of the week: McCandless (Pittsburgh, Dormont: how much, townhomes, theater)

[xdv8]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Considering you don’t have to cross any busy streets unless you consider Duncan or Cumberland busy, or go out onto McKniight Rd, I’m not sure what the problem with walking through a parking lot is. I’d rather much rather walk through parking lots or cross McKnight Rd once or twice a day than cross city streets/intersections most all day.

Yeah, maybe I misunderstood this sentence.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by xdv8

Yeah, maybe I misunderstood this sentence.

Yep, you did.

I’d personally rather cross once or twice a day than deal with the congestion and traffic of crossing city streets/intersections most all day. If you pay attention, there’s no reason to be scared of any of it though.

[sealie]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Yep, you did.

I’d personally rather cross once or twice a day than deal with the congestion and traffic of crossing city streets/intersections most all day.

I did too. I interpreted "most all day" as "hands down" or "any day of the week" or similar.

OTOH it's ok with me if people still want to live in the suburbs. We don't have space for everybody, and we wouldn't want a housing crisis.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by sealie

I did too. I interpreted "most all day" as "hands down" or "any day of the week" or similar.

OTOH it's ok with me if people still want to live in the suburbs. We don't have space for everybody, and we wouldn't want a housing crisis.

Personally, I don’t want to deal with crossing city streets/intersections most all day, hands down, any day of the week, etc..., but I occasionally do it. I just relate it to “hurrying up and waiting”.

Agreed.

[djfiler]

Wow, this thread deteriorated fast. That's somewhat understandable given our current level political polarization also aligns the city vs suburban/rural divide.

Attempting to leave all that aside...

We should at least agree that McCandless Crossing is not what is considered a "walkable neighborhood". Granted, you can "walk" places there and a few people do. But overall, it is a car oriented area and very few people choose to walk. There are few sidewalks and the density is low enough that walking isn't an everyday thing like it is in a walkable neighborhood.

That isn't meant to assert that, overall, it is a bad place to live. Suburban neighborhoods have other benefits like garages, large yards, lower taxes, etc. If we're going to argue, let's argue about those valid trade offs.

[Paul2421]

Originally Posted by djfiler

Wow, this thread deteriorated fast. That's somewhat understandable given our current level political polarization also aligns the city vs suburban/rural divide.

Attempting to leave all that aside...

We should at least agree that McCandless Crossing is not what is considered a "walkable neighborhood". Granted, you can "walk" places there and a few people do. But overall, it is a car oriented area and very few people choose to walk. There are few sidewalks and the density is low enough that walking isn't an everyday thing like it is in a walkable neighborhood.

That isn't meant to assert that, overall, it is a bad place to live. Suburban neighborhoods have other benefits like garages, large yards, lower taxes, etc. If we're going to argue, let's argue about those valid trade offs.

do you know what mccandless crossing is? it appears not.

[djfiler]

Originally Posted by Paul2421

do you know what mccandless crossing is? it appears not.

Yes I know what it is.

What is the point you're trying to make?

[eschaton]

Honestly, McCandless Crossing barely even counts as a "lifestyle center." There's two short blocks built strip mall style which happen to face each other, but the remainder of the development is set up with their front entrances facing a large parking lot rather than the various streets. As was noted, The Waterfront did it better in essentially every fashion (more pedestrian amenities, more variance in the building facades to make it look like a "downtown" instead of a strip mall, more stores overall, etc). The only way it's superior is there are actually residences within a 5-minute walk, whereas the closest apartments built to the Waterfront's town center area are over a 15-minute walk away.

[Paul2421]

Originally Posted by djfiler

Yes I know what it is.

What is the point you're trying to make?

just thought it was weird calling mcc crossing a neighborhood.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by Paul2421

just thought it was weird calling mcc crossing a neighborhood.

Technically I think it fits the bill, given it has a residential component.