Local discussion on national election (Pittsburgh: charges, restrictions, near)

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I don’t understand why the left/far left, especially those that support socialism, communism, their political beliefs, etc..., haven’t moved to countries that already support their beliefs, along with those that said they were moving if Trump won. Sounds like they’d be much happier in those places.

If anything this election has showed that the far right hates America and doesn’t take election losses very well. They are dwelling on a presidential loss. The fact is many people disagree with their way of thinking. It’s unfortunate they would rather sacrifice the sacred Union that is the United States over it. The country is changing and many of these folks are upset about it. Instead of being better people and living life how they see fit they would rather resort to being conservative snow flakes.

You either evolve and change or get left behind. Maybe Rush is right. Maybe we will see another civil conflict. Right now the only people attacking the sacred Union that is the United States is the far right.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

If anything this election has showed that the far right hates America and doesn’t take election losses very well. They are dwelling on a presidential loss. The fact is many people disagree with their way of thinking. It’s unfortunate they would rather sacrifice the sacred Union that is the United States over it. The country is changing and many of these folks are upset about it. Instead of being better people and living life how they see fit they would rather resort to being conservative snow flakes.

You either evolve and change or get left behind. Maybe Rush is right. Maybe we will see another civil conflict. Right now the only people attacking the sacred Union that is the United States is the far right.

Actually, it shows just the opposite. The far right hasn’t burned it down, looted, caused violence, etc,..., unlike their counterparts that have done that for months. That’s what people that hate their country do.

Not everyone is in favor of socialism/communism. That has zero to do with being a snowflake.

Maybe he is right, and perhaps not a bad idea. A civil conflict certainly wouldn’t take long.

[gg]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

If anything this election has showed that the far right hates America.

You mean the ones that don't riot, loot and burn cities to the ground? That right? HA, HA, HA, HA...Sure whatever you say NPR/CNN brain washed person. HA, HA, HA, HA. Wow, I can't imagine being so out of touch, but you are just being controlled by a very, very bad media feed. My suggestion is stop smoking pot, get a real job, hang around more working people, stop listening to NPR and that garbage and learn how to make a real living. That is your first step. I am trying to help obviously. Once you do that report back to me and I will take you to the next step of being a great American Patriot! We all love Patriots! That is one thing everyone can agree on... Oh unless you listen to NPR/CNN. Those people are too far gone, but I am willing to try with you.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Actually, it shows just the opposite. The far right hasn’t burned it down, looted, caused violence, etc,..., unlike their counterparts that have done that for months. That’s what people that hate their country do.

Not everyone is in favor of socialism/communism. That has zero to do with being a snowflake.

Maybe he is right, and perhaps not a bad idea. A civil conflict certainly wouldn’t take long.

You keep referring to socialism. You are getting Bernie Sanders confused with Joe Biden.

I definitely don’t agree with destroying property during protesting. But it is ok to continue filing lawsuits over an election that is lost? Challenging our our electoral process because your candidate lost? Refusing to co exist with people who think differently? When trump won in 2016 there were a lot of unhappy people, but what the far right is doing to this country and challenging the sacred institution that is the United States and an election is an absolute disgrace. Nobody was talking about states breaking from the Union. For calling the far left snowflakes the far right is just as much the same. Maybe even moreso delusional. I’ve said for a while this guy would lose the election. His high water mark was going to be 46-47%. It’s a bunch of people that convinced themselves trump was going to win and not realizing more people disagree with their policies and beliefs.

Conservatives have a problem to cope, now they need their own safe space. It’s funny. People just need to move on and live their life. We elect the president to lead this country. We don’t elect kings.

Originally Posted by gg

You mean the ones that don't riot, loot and burn cities to the ground? That right? HA, HA, HA, HA...Sure whatever you say NPR/CNN brain washed person. HA, HA, HA, HA. Wow, I can't imagine being so out of touch, but you are just being controlled by a very, very bad media feed. My suggestion is stop smoking pot, get a real job, hang around more working people, stop listening to NPR and that garbage and learn how to make a real living. That is your first step. I am trying to help obviously. Once you do that report back to me and I will take you to the next step of being a great American Patriot! We all love Patriots! That is one thing everyone can agree on... Oh unless you listen to NPR/CNN. Those people are too far gone, but I am willing to try with you.

The only people out of touch are you and those completely butt hurt about trumps loss. In fact the writing has been on the wall for years now. A Republican presidential candidate won more votes than the democratic challenger one time the last 28 years. That was in 2004. One time in 28 years isn’t a good track record. If the Republicans bank on more Hillary like candidates where they can squeeze out electoral college votes I’ve got some bad news for you.

Many people embrace conservative values, but the message needs to be tweaked to work for broad appeal. The last 28 years of presidential elections show that. It’s time for conservatives to evolve and have a more inclusive message. Looking backwards is not the future. The proof is in the pudding with the last 28 years of election results. Continually getting 47% in presidential elections is not a sustainable future for a major party. Need more inclusion. The electorate they represent is shrinking.

Until republicans embrace the post Mortem analysis of 2012 the same result will continue to happen. It’s not really hard to understand.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

You keep referring to socialism. You are getting Bernie Sanders confused with Joe Biden.

I definitely don’t agree with destroying property during protesting. But it is ok to continue filing lawsuits over an election that is lost? Challenging our our electoral process because your candidate lost? Refusing to co exist with people who think differently? When trump won in 2016 there were a lot of unhappy people, but what the far right is doing to this country and challenging the sacred institution that is the United States and an election is an absolute disgrace. Nobody was talking about states breaking from the Union. For calling the far left snowflakes the far right is just as much the same. Maybe even moreso delusional. I’ve said for a while this guy would lose the election. His high water mark was going to be 46-47%. It’s a bunch of people that convinced themselves trump was going to win and not realizing more people disagree with their policies and beliefs.

Conservatives have a problem to cope, now they need their own safe space. It’s funny. People just need to move on and live their life. We elect the president to lead this country. We don’t elect kings..

Lol. I’m not confusing anything.

The left fought Trump everyday since day one because they were unhappy, and went so far as to fight him for 4 years and waste time and money on a $40m goose chase, and challenged the “sacred institution that is the United States” because he hurt feelings.

Too bad you weren’t so confident in Biden winning, you could’ve greatly cashed in.

Lol. If Biden had lost, cities would still be on fire.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by guy2073

They are saying 50k in student debt forgiveness now, i feel like a loser for paying mine off.

Amazing what taking responsibility can do.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/10/suze...tent=algorithm

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Lol. I’m not confusing anything.

The left fought Trump everyday since day one because they were unhappy, and went so far as to fight him for 4 years and waste time and money on a $40m goose chase, and challenged the “sacred institution that is the United States” because he hurt feelings.

Too bad you weren’t so confident in Biden winning, you could’ve greatly cashed in.

Lol. If Biden had lost, cities would still be on fire.

It’s just more thoughts and feelings on your part. Fiction is fun right now for the MAGA folks. In 2016 I heard “elections have consequences” mantra when trump won. I guess it is all forgotten now, eh?

I prefer to live in reality. I accurately predicted Trump would lose and it would not be close. Fact also is that 6 out of the last 7 elections the Republican candidate failed to achieve attaining more than 48% of the overall vote. Trump actually got a smaller overall vote percentage both times than mitt Romney did in 2012.

If the democrats put up a crappy candidate like Clinton the republicans have a chance of a de facto electoral college win with less overall votes and getting 45-47%.

My thoughts and feelings are based on reality. Trump lost and his folks need to move on. Conservatives need to tweak their message to include the American dream otherwise the run of a 47% ceiling for the Republican candidate will continue with each upcoming election.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

It’s just more thoughts and feelings on your part. Fiction is fun right now for the MAGA folks. In 2016 I heard “elections have consequences” mantra when trump won. I guess it is all forgotten now, eh?

I prefer to live in reality. I accurately predicted Trump would lose and it would not be close. Fact also is that 6 out of the last 7 elections the Republican candidate failed to achieve attaining more than 48% of the overall vote. Trump actually got a smaller overall vote percentage both times than mitt Romney did in 2012.

If the democrats put up a crappy candidate like Clinton the republicans have a chance of a de facto electoral college win with less overall votes and getting 45-47%.

My thoughts and feelings are based on reality. Trump lost and his folks need to move on. Conservatives need to tweak their message to include the American dream otherwise the run of a 47% ceiling for the Republican candidate will continue with each upcoming election.

Sounds like that 2016 election is going to haunt you for a long time.

Too bad your prediction wasn’t more than lip service. I’d have cashed in huge with such confidence.

Lol. That’s like touting the popular vote for the last 4 years.

Your thoughts are based on Trump hate. Too bad your blue wave prediction wasn’t reality.

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Sounds like that 2016 election is going to haunt you for a long time.

Too bad your prediction wasn’t more than lip service. I’d have cashed in huge with such confidence.

Lol. That’s like touting the popular vote for the last 4 years.

Your thoughts are based on Trump hate. Too bad your blue wave prediction wasn’t reality.

More people still voted for Hillary in 2016. He was a de facto winner cause she was a terrible candidate. 7 million voted 3rd party I’m 2016. Elections have consequences. Trump won in 2016. People didn’t like his policy for four years and voted him out. It’s not really hard to understand. He had his chance and lost.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

More people still voted for Hillary in 2016. He was a de facto winner cause she was a terrible candidate. 7 million voted 3rd party I’m 2016. Elections have consequences. Trump won in 2016. People didn’t like his policy for four years and voted him out. It’s not really hard to understand. He had his chance and lost.

Lol. If only that meant anything, Trump wouldn’t have won.

He was a big meanie and hurt feelings. That’s why there was a $40m+ goosechase, and he was voted out.

Looks like Cynthia Johnson is the latest because Trump. Quite the story it is.