Pittsburgh bike lanes/infrastructure (Penn Hills, Liberty: 2015, neighborhoods, versus)

[gg]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

I live in the city (east end) and witnessed the evolution of bike culture in this city. These major infrastructure improvements including biking are designed to accommodate future growth. There has been growth and from what I’ve witnessed Pittsburgh is progressing. My brother moved from Pittsburgh in 2005. He is thoroughly impressed with Pittsburgh’s progress over the years. I do not think these amenities are a waste. This station was mostly funded by a government grant that was highly competitive nationwide. I would prefer Pittsburgh to receive this funding over Charlotte, St Louis, or Indianapolis.

The facility as well as bike culture will evolve over time.

I agree here. I think cycling is just starting and the younger city set doesn't want to drive a car as much as generations ahead of them. I have been cycling in this city since the 80's! I was pretty much alone on the streets unless I saw a competitive cyclist group, like Pittsburgh Pro riding all decked out together training. Or some kid riding a bike on a sidewalk. Now? I see cyclists everywhere ALL the time. It is just common, but I do think it will become more and more common.

Peduto did indeed do a great think for our city by promoting cycling. The safer it is for a beginner the better as the only reason people don't cycle more that want to is fear. I get that. A fair amount of people hate cyclists and are aggressive towards us. So long as a cyclist stays out of their way as much as we can, it mellows things quite a bit. I certainly have been threatened on my bike. Even had a guy shout out his window, "I will run you over". He then proceeded by me and literally pulled off that road in 1/2 of a block. I would have loved to shoot him as he threatened me, but best to move on. I am sure he was armed and would have shot me and then went out for ice cream or something. Yeah, that kind of person no doubt.

I think cycling will just grow. I wish it was safer, but it sure is better now with lanes and riverfront trails. Love it.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by BUILD PENN SQUARE

"According to Rebecca Schenck, project specialist at the Urban Redevelopment Authority, the garage will hold up to 80 bicycles behind locked gates. The bikes can be accessed using an electronic key fob and the garage will charge a still-undetermined annual membership fee. Fees for bike garages typically range from $100-150 per year. There will also be free bike racks just outside the garage for commuter use."

https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsbu...nt?oid=1849751

that was the plan originally - users paid an annual fee in exchange for security

then they sent out a survey to gauge interest in that plan and quickly realized not one person was interested

maybe should have sent out the survey before building it

A survey would’ve been the obvious thing to do. Wonder who profited off of the $366K build

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by erieguy

A survey would’ve been the obvious thing to do. Wonder who profited off of the $366K build

The city of Pittsburgh

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

The city of Pittsburgh

The city of Pittsburgh themselves had their own workers build the structure, and didn’t subcontract it out?

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by gg

I agree here. I think cycling is just starting and the younger city set doesn't want to drive a car as much as generations ahead of them. I have been cycling in this city since the 80's! I was pretty much alone on the streets unless I saw a competitive cyclist group, like Pittsburgh Pro riding all decked out together training. Or some kid riding a bike on a sidewalk. Now? I see cyclists everywhere ALL the time. It is just common, but I do think it will become more and more common.

Peduto did indeed do a great think for our city by promoting cycling. The safer it is for a beginner the better as the only reason people don't cycle more that want to is fear. I get that. A fair amount of people hate cyclists and are aggressive towards us. So long as a cyclist stays out of their way as much as we can, it mellows things quite a bit. I certainly have been threatened on my bike. Even had a guy shout out his window, "I will run you over". He then proceeded by me and literally pulled off that road in 1/2 of a block. I would have loved to shoot him as he threatened me, but best to move on. I am sure he was armed and would have shot me and then went out for ice cream or something. Yeah, that kind of person no doubt.

I think cycling will just grow. I wish it was safer, but it sure is better now with lanes and riverfront trails. Love it.

And you questioned Peduto’s intelligence. Why?

[gg]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

And you questioned Peduto’s intelligence. Why?

He allowed countless illegal protests that blocked roads all over the city for 4 1/2 years. He didn’t get tough on crime in general. The mentality ill can protest, but the jammed up our city daily. What I find funny about these young morons protesting is they were just running around being led by the leftist media machine. Has anyone’s life improved since the idiot Biden got in? He is a clueless fool.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by erieguy

The city of Pittsburgh themselves had their own workers build the structure, and didn’t subcontract it out?

What difference does it make? City residents are the beneficiaries of the infrastructure improvement that includes the bike garage, redesigned busway platforms, ADA improvements /upgrades, landscaping and streetscape improvements. The area is beautifully designed and definitely an asset to the community. You cannot deny that.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

What difference does it make? City residents are the beneficiaries of the infrastructure improvement that includes the bike garage, redesigned busway platforms, ADA improvements /upgrades, landscaping and streetscape improvements. The area is beautifully designed and definitely an asset to the community. You cannot deny that.

In other words, no.

Simple and obvious. Not doing a survey and spending $366k for something that doesn’t get used is a poor financial decision, and the money could’ve been better used on another project.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by gg

He allowed countless illegal protests that blocked roads all over the city for 4 1/2 years. He didn’t get tough on crime in general. The mentality ill can protest, but the jammed up our city daily. What I find funny about these young morons protesting is they were just running around being led by the leftist media machine. Has anyone’s life improved since the idiot Biden got in? He is a clueless fool.

I lived in the inner city during this time. I do not recall this. 4 1/2 years appears to correspond with your misery during the Trump administration. Could this have caused your misery? If I recall you admitted to alcohol consumption during this time. What you felt during that time does not represent reality. Everything you said is not true. Fake news. 4 1/2 years of unrest in the city of Pittsburgh??? I cannot allow you to spread that lie.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by erieguy

In other words, no.

Simple and obvious. Not doing a survey and spending $366k for something that doesn’t get used is a poor financial decision, and the money could’ve been better used on another project.

But it could not have been used for any other project period. The Federal government allocated the funding specifically for this purpose only. Use it or lose it. Same with the competition for mass transit infrastructure projects. No city in the US can fund massive infrastructure projects. Not one. The money was not wasted.