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Old 12-27-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: On the East Coast
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I sure wish someone would move to Armstrong Co./Kittanning and buy my house!!! Only 1/2 mile from 4-lane route 28 directly to Pgh!
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:58 PM
 
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I sure wish someone would move to Armstrong Co./Kittanning and buy my house!!! Only 1/2 mile from 4-lane route 28 directly to Pgh!
Does it have land for horses?
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:56 AM
 
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How much of this data is in regard to young people in their 20s and even 30s moving back in with their parents after dreams of FL, CA, NV didn't quite pan out?
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:26 AM
 
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Not sure about 20s, but 30s always moved back to raise families here. That's been the norm wherever they went. Pittsburgh is just a great place to raise a family.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:34 AM
 
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How much of this data is in regard to young people in their 20s and even 30s moving back in with their parents after dreams of FL, CA, NV didn't quite pan out?
Those are the people I referred to above as "boomerangers", and the short answer is we don't really know, but the overall patterns are suggestive of a reversal of recent trends that would support a boomeranger theory.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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These stats are based on Philly, Harrisburg, and State College. I don't see how this is positive for Pittsburgh.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:00 AM
 
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Just for the record, here is the Census methodology for state-level population estimates:

http://www.census.gov/popest/topics/methodology/2009-st-co-meth.pdf (broken link)

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The U.S. Census Bureau annually produces estimates of the resident population for each state
and county using a component of population change method at the county level. To produce the
state population estimates, we simply sum all county populations within each state.
So the state estimate reflects the cumulative impact of the estimate for every county in the state. To my knowledge they haven't released the 2009 county estimates yet, so we don't know anything definitive at that level.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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IMO, the "domestic net migration" into PA is people moving into NYC exburbs located in PA. The positive net migration into WV is the result of exburban population growth related to DC.

Pittsburgh is definitely turning around but I think these numbers are much more related to NYC and DC growth than anything else. There are a lot of growth right on the borders in those two states. I think Pittsburgh's domestic inmigration/outmigration numbers were never really that bad - the primary reason for population loss over the last 10 years is related to a high death rate relative to birth rate (probably due to the workers that were already retired during Pittsburgh's loss of the steel industry and just stayed).

I think an important thing for states like Michigan to understand is when you have a really bad employment loss you first have a large domestic outmigration from people moving to find better/different jobs, then later on you have population loss due to death rates exceeding birth rates, since the people who retired generally won't leave with a high frequency. Plus you have a segment (probably from 50-55) that will often take early retirement and just clamp down on expenses. This type of attitude also, generally, involves staying at home.

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Old 12-28-2009, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Philly
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it's more the "nyc exurbs"
Philly has stopped losing population. Philly used to drag down the stats for the entire MSA. Philly is very much it's own metro and not an exurb. at nearly nearly 6 million people, it's easily the state's largest metro. NEPA may well be fueled, at the margin, by nyc. lancaster county has been fueled by chester county. harrisburg's improved dramatically, even if it still has crime and schools problems, and the york area has become a popular place for people trying to escape Maryland taxes. Of course, those are relatively small places. it's only important to pitt inasmuch as PA is becoming relatively more attractive than other states.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Center Twp, PA
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Thank you! My kids are so excited about living in a place that gets snow. (So am I!)
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