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No, BP DID cause this to happen, with their criminal actions. And yes, they DID have accomplices, Trans Ocean and Halaburton. How much blame goes where will be sorted out in the courts...over time, a long time. Meanwhile, BP has opened themselves up for ALL cost connected with the spill, from their pipes. BPs ownership of this unprecedented disaster is self admitted.
BP is already a convicted felon, proving fact. They cut corners all in the name of greed and excess profits, they must pay and pay, no dividends, no fat checks to top management, and, yes , they must make everyone whole who has been effected by their criminal actions.... Just tell the relatives of those who died on that rig you think BP is not responsible.
Now reality, ...the open ended cost to make everyone whole could and should be challenged in the courts. A precedent will be set here, one of the reasons the liability cap was put on after the Exxon spill. It should be done a way with. Oil Companies should be subjected to the same rules and regs. that anyone else is subjected to when they destroy the environment. Environmental clean up effects almost every industry in this country. You can not escape the EPA, you can not sell property that "might" be contaminated. The liability never leaves, its with us forever,just like the harm and destruction that has happened in the Gulf.
If this is a turning point on our dependence on fossil fuels, oil in general, then so be it. Its time to do something BIG. part of the mess that could be in the Courts for years may be settled with a massive Gulf Marshall plan, and, yes , we the people will pay in the end,...its the American way,...bring it on, I have my check book open, so should everyone . BP being the first to own up to their slogan...behond oil, and being the greenest energy company in the world, their words, not mine.
It just goes to show that faux outrage from an inexperienced President is not only embarrassing, its dangerous. If the President is going to be outraged, at least do it in a manner that would make Ronald Reagan proud. When Reagan spoke, the ground shook around the world. When Obama speaks, people swat the air with their hands and say "that ******* annoying gnat needs to get out of my ear."
obama is a like a rich elitist high school kid with NO CLUE what goes on in the REAL WORLD!
Obamna does not seem to realise he has to accomplish somethng with results;he is no longer a communtiy oraganiser or BSer any more. Talk is cheap;accomplishemnts count.
Obama backs off his harsh tone to England.."no hard feelings".
Obama tells Britain no hard feelings over spill - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100612/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_us_britain - broken link)
"The British government says President Barack Obama has reassured Prime Minister David Cameron that his frustration over the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is not an attack on Britain."
That's right..Obama needs to remember he holds the highest office in the United States and should act as such..a diplomat.
BP has never said once they wouldn't take financial ownership yet this administration spends most of their time on a financial witchhunt to "make BP pay". BP already said they would pay.
Obama could make better use of his time in making sure booms and boats and cleanup equipment make it's way to the gulf in an expedient manner.
IMO..it's all about deflection away from the MMS. Remember that BP had to get permisson and subject themselves to inspections from this agency. This agency didn't do their job. Where is the witchhunt within our own government to fix the breakdown ?
They're on vacation.
Last edited by Ellis Bell; 06-12-2010 at 11:47 AM..
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Why do you not include the MMS in your accusations of guilt ?
That goes without saying. The MMS is also corrupt. ... And, I DO blame the Government, however, WE are the Government, we elected the fools who ignored over site and they ,the Oil Companies run wild, writing their own inspections, their own rules. Its a revolving door, private Oil to MMS, MMS to private oil., all in the same bed.... It IS up to Obama to put a stop to this, he needs to act, and quickly.
Now, will he meet resistance ?...sure he will, big oil has its fingers into every politician's pocket. Will he get it done....I don't know, but what I do know, is Big business has got us into the mess, Regan's trickle Down is at the root of the problem, its been going on for a long time, its time to change Washington, K street should be illegal, over site must return to all enactments. You can not trust Big Business, history have proved this, yet , we just keep funding then over and over, in the name of Homeland security, in the name of bigger is better, but, the bottom line is...Corporations have no heart, no care for the common man nor the environment. A return to the pre Regan days, a return to regulation, only this time with a level playing field. We need to downsize big business, and if it means Government take over, with all the waste that goes along with it,...so be it..... something needs to happen....we have had our wake up call, now its time to act.
That goes without saying. The MMS is also corrupt. ... And, I DO blame the Government, however, WE are the Government, we elected the fools who ignored over site and they ,the Oil Companies run wild, writing their own inspections, their own rules. Its a revolving door, private Oil to MMS, MMS to private oil., all in the same bed.... It IS up to Obama to put a stop to this, he needs to act, and quickly.
And, as the primaries have just shown us, Americans like the fools and want to send them back to DC..go figure....
Obama backs off his harsh tone to England.."no hard feelings".
Obama tells Britain no hard feelings over spill - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100612/ap_on_bi_ge/us_oil_spill_us_britain - broken link)
"The British government says President Barack Obama has reassured Prime Minister David Cameron that his frustration over the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is not an attack on Britain."
Good Lord! It's cringe-inducing.
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