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Old 06-23-2010, 09:33 AM
 
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motivation for the time's square attempt.


Well, he called himself a "muslim soldier" when he pled guilty. Cue liberal excuses.

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When did Holder "refuse to admit"? (In real life, not in RW fantasyland.)
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:36 AM
 
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When did Holder "refuse to admit"? (In real life, not in RW fantasyland.)
I see you didn't read through the thread. You can now join your pal DC and stomp and whine while covering your ears and closing your eyes. You people are unbelievable.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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I see you didn't read through the thread. You can now join your pal DC and stomp and whine while covering your ears and closing your eyes. You people are unbelievable.
I see you didn't read my quote from Holder's testimony. Is that you covering your ears, closing your eyes, and chanting to avoid the truth?
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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I see you didn't read my quote from Holder's testimony. Is that you covering your ears, closing your eyes, and chanting to avoid the truth?
Let's see, that quote you posted came AFTER that video. Holder changed his tune after he made a fool of himself.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:41 AM
 
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There is no excuse for terrorist bombings. None what so ever. It is a technique that only harms people uninvolved with the problem. Bombing military targets has a point but civilians should be left alone.
But killing civilians is the intended purpose behind terrorism, they make the people afraid, convincing them that they have no other choice but to give in to the terrorist demands, because their government is unable to protect them.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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I see you didn't read through the thread. You can now join your pal DC and stomp and whine while covering your ears and closing your eyes. You people are unbelievable.
... Nowhere?
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:46 AM
 
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His testimony was a little more than a ten-second you-tube blurb.

Here's what he said IN HIS TESTIMONY TO CONGRESS about the Times Square Bomber:

Holder: "[P]eople who espouse a radical version of Islam" may influence terrorists. During his May 13 testimony before the Judiciary Committee, Holder told Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) that "I certainly think that it's possible that people who espouse a radical version of Islam have had an ability to have an impact on people like Mr. Shahzad." Holder also commented: "There are a variety of reasons why people do these things. Some of them are potentially religious-based."

You-tubes can be edited. You might refer to the Congressional Record for better accuracy.
Exactly.

One more piece of evidence that apparently the conservatives can't make a point without lying.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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... Nowhere?
What are you talking about?

Here's what went down and it had to be dragged out of Holder.

“There are a variety of reasons why I think people have taken these actions,” Holder told the House Judiciary Committee. “One, I think just look at each individual case. We are in the process how of talking to Mr. (Faisal) Shahzad to try to understand what it is that drove him to take the action.”

The question as to whether the individuals were incited by radical Islam came from the committee’s ranking member Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas).

Smith followed, “But radical Islam could have been one of the reasons?”

Holder again said, “There are a variety of reasons.”

Smith later asked, “But all I’m asking is do you think among those variety of reasons, radical Islam might have been one of the reasons that the individuals took the steps that they did?”

After a two-minute back and forth, Holder eventually said, “I certainly think that it’s possible that people who espouse a radical version of Islam have had an ability to have an impact on people like Mr. Shahzad.”

This was a classic 2-step dance he was pulling off, he was trying sooooo hard to not say it, but he had to.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:49 AM
 
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Exactly.

One more piece of evidence that apparently the conservatives can't make a point without lying.
If anyone is lying it is you guys. The man did a dance and tried soo damn hard not to say it and it had to be dragged out of him kicking and screaming.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:50 AM
 
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Let's see, that quote you posted came AFTER that video. Holder changed his tune after he made a fool of himself.
The video doesn't show Holder's entire testimony. It was meant to make a fool of Holder. Holder didn't make a fool of himself. And now you are agreeing that Holder didn't "refuse to admit that Islamic terrorism might have been" a factor in the Times Square bombing. Because I've provided you with a May 4th link contradicting that assertion. And provided you with more of his May 13th testimony before Congress than an edited-down you-tube attack.
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