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Its called just that a grant... Using that definition of a bailout, would you consider the oil subsidies bailouts??
I oppose oil subsidies.. So according to you, the federal government could have just given GM/AIG a "grant" and you'd be fine with it? You see the point is, "bailout" definition is subjective... One could simply reclassify the next one as "assistance", a "loan", an "investment".. why we could have fun making up terms that could be used to bailout companies while not calling it a bailout. Start thinking beyond the Obama soundbites..
ahh roy again perpetuating a lie. the bill doesn't allow what you are going so crazy over.
right wing nuts lying about Obama breaking a promise, when nothing of the sort happened.
The funding goes to OVERALL healthcare, and in some cases will be covered for PRENATAL care;
ELECTIVE abortions by definition means that the mother chooses to have an abortion despite there being OTHER choices.
Abortions that would be covered are any abortions needed to SAVE the life of the mother like ectopic pregnancies (the fetus is growing in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus). If operation isn't done to remove the fetus, the mother could suffer from infection, cramping, bleeding out into the body, and in some cases, if caught too late, death.
ahh roy again perpetuating a lie. the bill doesn't allow what you are going so crazy over.
right wing nuts lying about Obama breaking a promise, when nothing of the sort happened.
The funding goes to OVERALL healthcare, and in some cases will be covered for PRENATAL care;
ELECTIVE abortions by definition means that the mother chooses to have an abortion despite there being OTHER choices.
Abortions that would be covered are any abortions needed to SAVE the life of the mother like ectopic pregnancies (the fetus is growing in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus). If operation isn't done to remove the fetus, the mother could suffer from infection, cramping, bleeding out into the body, and in some cases, if caught too late, death.
You're posting about Fed guidelines. PA has much more lenient guidelines. This is where the confusion is coming in and the HHS has said they will put their guidelines in the contracts that each state signs and the states will commit to follow the Fed guidelines and not their own state's guidelines when Fed money is being used.
PA only refuses abortion when it's because the parent doesn't like the sex of the unborn child. Currently all you need is a doctor's ok (emotional, age, physical, psychological reasons) to get a PA funded abortion.
You see everyone pretty much understands the Fed guidelines but we are now finding out that States have much more lenient rules.
HHS has said they will clarify this in their contract.
Which is what we ALL should wait on instead of posting bull threads that doesn't support the claims in the first place
Yeah, I agree. On the otherhand though, it would have been nice if HHS had their act together BEFORE states started applying for money.
So now the HHS is in reaction mode and not information mode.
HHS is reacting to the outrage, which could be considered semi-justified since HHS is just now coming out with this statement.
Could also be that this outrage will now clarify what Fed funds can be used for. Maybe the HHS didn't plan to do this but now they will seeing the backlash from the public.
Who knows..
Either the HHS is behind the ball on paperwork or the HHS was pushed to uphold the EO by public outrage.
JUSTICE GINSBURG: Reproductive choice has to be straightened out. There will never be a woman of means without choice anymore... So we have a policy that affects only poor women, and it can never be otherwise, and I don’t know why this hasn’t been said more often.
Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.
ahh roy again perpetuating a lie. the bill doesn't allow what you are going so crazy over.
right wing nuts lying about Obama breaking a promise, when nothing of the sort happened.
The funding goes to OVERALL healthcare, and in some cases will be covered for PRENATAL care;
ELECTIVE abortions by definition means that the mother chooses to have an abortion despite there being OTHER choices.
Abortions that would be covered are any abortions needed to SAVE the life of the mother like ectopic pregnancies (the fetus is growing in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus). If operation isn't done to remove the fetus, the mother could suffer from infection, cramping, bleeding out into the body, and in some cases, if caught too late, death.
Pennsylvania and New Mexico are planning to use their money, that I don't know why they get to provide abortions and of course when there is no definition of elective abortion is not in the bill and more and more they will be allowed if not stopped right here. The Man did not write that EO that he promised Stupak and his buddies but he got their vote anyway. Yes, the even bigger liar, Sebelius said there would be provisions to keep what I am griping about from happening, today, after all the noise was made yesterday. They tried but couldn't slip it in and yes, The One did lie about that EO but they are still loyal followers.
Jon, that certainly was a big deal back then. They just wanted to hold down population so badly and now we see that our birth rate is too low to maintain our country. Well that is unless we allow all the illegals who have extremely large families to remain.
I never worried about Roe back then other than as a form of population control which it sounds like something Ginsberg agreed with.
still perpetuating the lies. and of course the rhetoric just rolls off the liars.
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You see the point is, "bailout" definition is subjective... One could simply reclassify the next one as "assistance", a "loan", an "investment".. why we could have fun making up terms that could be used to bailout companies while not calling it a bailout. Start thinking beyond the Obama soundbites..
