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I was talking about the nanny state taking over for the parents, absolving the parents from any "parenting" responsibilities.
Yeah, I know.
If you actually read my replies you might have clued into that by now. I think you're dead wrong and that it is the types like you who are trying to nanny, every time you bellyache about sex-ed.
And NEWS FLASH -- your take on this is totally illogical. How in the hell does having sex-ed "absolve" any parent of anything? That's total rubbish and a really lame attempt to justify your position. I had sex-ed AND my parents talked to me about sex.
The world is not a flow chart, my friend. Wake up.
many parents are too embarrassed to teach their children so they don't say a word. should these kids stay uneducated?
many parents if they have their own hang ups can and do pass them on to their children. a child should be able to have all the facts and make up their own mind how they view sex for themselves.
hats off to all the parents who do teach their child everything there is in the world of sex and answer any questions they may have. it is not however the norm.
You know, I think they would accept it -- those kids whose parents don't teach them falling through the cracks -- because they are that frightened of their own bodies.
when I was in school we had "Health" class when we wer taught CPR, etc along with an understanding of STD's
in anatomy class we were taught all the body parts, to include all the reproductive parts
sex itself, was taught by dad, and his 'talk',,, not exactly an easy conversation
I agree with sex education, its better than being 'street' taught....but let's be reasonable, we dont need to teach it to 3rd graders
I was given my first lessons in sex education by various older kids in the neighborhood, an education that included an assortment of 8mm porn flicks shown on a basement wall to the hoots and howls of an adolescent male audience. I received further instruction when I was 16 working a summer job at a lumber yard. Over the following six or eight years I had various tutorials from a small number of experienced women whom I encountered. I have garnished some additional knowledge through years of trial and error.
I was given no instruction whatsoever by a parent. A classroom teacher informed her students, including me, where reproductive organs could be found upon the human anatomy, but not what they did.
Are students having sex? getting STDs? getting pregnant? YES. Are most parents educated enough to give their children correct information on this topic? No. Therefore, students should be allowed to protect themselves. Simple logic.
sounds like the parents in the OP's news article nee to go to sex education classes. one so they are not outraged at normal sexual things and can talk to their kids about it. these are the kind of parents who want their children kept in the dark completely or they will allow a "night light" but not truly turn on the light. then this kind of parent can't figure out why we have such a high rate of teen pregnancy and or abortion, and concern about paying more welfare. wake up parents stop being so embarrassed. kids should know about all types of sexual activities. knowing about something does not mean they will engage in it. education is not a bad thing.
Yes. THE PARENTS "can talk to their kids about it." NOT the government.
Why does everyone assume the worst of parents and assume they will not do their job? I thought people were innocent until proven guilty in this country. Why do we subject all the kids from good, responsible families to the same, often inappropriate, certainly not personalized instruction on a very personal subject to accommodate the minority?
You do realize that some "education" can be "bad."
Yes. THE PARENTS "can talk to their kids about it." NOT the government.
Why does everyone assume the worst of parents and assume they will not do their job? I thought people were innocent until proven guilty in this country. Why do we subject all the kids from good, responsible families to the same, often inappropriate, certainly not personalized instruction on a very personal subject to accommodate the minority?
You do realize that some "education" can be "bad."
The sex talk is never easy. It's not comfortable for anyone involved — parents are afraid of it, children are mortified by it — which is probably why the talk so often comes after the fact. In the latest study on parent-child talks about sex and sexuality, researchers found that more than 40% of adolescents had had intercourse before talking to their parents about safe sex, birth control or sexually transmitted diseases.
I'm not saying schools can't teach sex ed. it's the bizarre stuff like homosexuality and sexual positions that I think is inappropriate at young ages like at least 1 state was proposing. If you think that stuff is ok that's your opinion.
If you think kids don't already learn about homosexuality and sexual positions from their peers (and dad's stash of porno flicks or mags) at a young age, you need to climb back out of the rabbit-hole.
If schools touch on these matters then we have a chance to make kids understand that it isn't just "deviant behavior". When kids are told something is "wrong" what do they do? They want to try it. ASAP. Ask me. I raised two kids, a boy and a girl. I was also a kid myself once. So were you.
The sex talk is never easy. It's not comfortable for anyone involved — parents are afraid of it, children are mortified by it — which is probably why the talk so often comes after the fact. In the latest study on parent-child talks about sex and sexuality, researchers found that more than 40% of adolescents had had intercourse before talking to their parents about safe sex, birth control or sexually transmitted diseases.
The numbers are DROPPING, so sex-ed seems to be working.
I will say this for the abstinence programs, when mixed with a traditional sex education class they have better effects than either program does alone.
Its the abstinence only courses, and no class at all that have the worst results.
Yes. THE PARENTS "can talk to their kids about it." NOT the government. yes parents CAN, but many DO NOT. this is why we have education. many parents can't teach math either.
Why does everyone assume the worst of parents and assume they will not do their job? I thought people were innocent until proven guilty in this country. Why do we subject all the kids from good, responsible families to the same, often inappropriate, certainly not personalized instruction on a very personal subject to accommodate the minority?
You do realize that some "education" can be "bad."
after looking at htese links the first two seem to be about the same case and is a great example of why sex ed should be taught in the schools. these parents bringing the suit are having a hard time their children were exposed to normal everyday sexual practices and words. OMG they used slang. like real kids would when they gave a presentation. OMG they talked about oral sex, homosexuality and masterbation. again would you prefer your children to just be ignorant of these things? or only taught that people have only one kind of sex? the gay books I would have to have way more information on. I have no problems with homosexuality being talked about in sex ed. pornography gay or straight is another matter all together for schools
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