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Old 08-04-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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Really, you can see into his heart and mind and know his motivations? Haiti has a miserable history of past leaders. They deserve better, no doubt.
Yeah.... no doubt.....

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I think they can do much better than Jean.
Who do you propose?
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In the end it is up to the people of Haiti. I have no say in thier future. My tax dollars are sent to them regardless of what I think of whom is in power down there.


You could have a lot to say for their future if you were interested. Look at it this way. If Haiti were to become healthy you could keep your tax dollars!
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:13 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I don't know all that much about this guy-but if he can be freely elected and not fall into the endless pit of corruption that is the haitian govt., he has my very best wishes.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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That would be surreal.

Dictator Jean.

LoL.

Dictators in Haiti are installed by the U.S. government, a true bi partisan tradition. Try and keep up.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Well good for him.

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Hit the nail on the head. Wyclef is a tax cheat. And a BIG one, at that...
IRS Hits Wyclef With $2.1 Million In Tax Liens | The Smoking Gun
The smoking gun seems to be the only place that knows this...I would have thought the other millions of celeb gossip traps would be salivating over this...maybe Clef just ain't that important
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:47 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Well good for him.



The smoking gun seems to be the only place that knows this...I would have thought the other millions of celeb gossip traps would be salivating over this...maybe Clef just ain't that important
It's just now breaking... the celeb rags will jump on it shortly. 9,160 results on Google already...
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Old 08-05-2010, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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It's just now breaking... the celeb rags will jump on it shortly. 9,160 results on Google already...
One thing you can almost always count on is the shallowest possible reactions from bandwagon-jumpers. Opening up a history book is not usually part of their strategy. Can anyone honestly say that Wyclef Jean would actually be worse for Haiti than Francois Duvalier (and his less intelligent son) were?
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:59 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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One thing you can almost always count on is the shallowest possible reactions from bandwagon-jumpers. Opening up a history book is not usually part of their strategy. Can anyone honestly say that Wyclef Jean would actually be worse for Haiti than Francois Duvalier (and his less intelligent son) were?
Wyclef's cheating on his taxes to the tune of $2.1 million doesn't exactly inspire confidence, either.
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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The main reason is that Haiti has never really been a free nation, but a debt slave to western powers since it gained its independence. Starting in 1806, fearful that the Haitian Revolution might inspire enslaved Africans in other parts of the Western Hemisphere to rebel, the U.S. Congress banned trade with Haiti by joining French, Spanish and Portuguese boycotts. Global shipping originating from Haiti was banned from trading with American and European ports of trade. This coordinated embargo effectively crippled Haiti's export-driven economy and its development as a once prosperous Caribbean port under French rule. The embargo was renewed in 1807 and 1809, and in one form or another has lasted over 100 years. It was accompanied by a threat of re-colonization and re-enslavement by the American-European alliance if Haiti failed to compensate France for losses incurred when French plantation owners, as a result of the Haitian Revolution, lost Haiti's lucrative sugar, coffee, and tobacco fortunes supported by slave labor. Haiti spent the next 100+ years paying 70% of its national revenues in reparations to France.A ransom enforced by the American-European trade alliance as the price for Haiti’s independence.

Heres a good video explaining Americas role in Haiti's food riots.


YouTube - The US Role in Haiti's Food Riots
Thanks for that explanation Archer24. It really helps shed some light on it and is a good place for me to start understanding what has gone down in that country.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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It's just now breaking... the celeb rags will jump on it shortly. 9,160 results on Google already...
Yeah well it's been 24 hours now and still not a word from anyone major. And when you google it all the websites say "according to the smoking gun" maybe the rest of the world will hear about it tomorrow
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:34 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yeah well it's been 24 hours now and still not a word from anyone major. And when you google it all the websites say "according to the smoking gun" maybe the rest of the world will hear about it tomorrow
They refer to the smoking gun because the smoking gun scooped the story and posted the filed IRS lien documents. Did you not see them? Everyone else has to credit the smoking gun as their source.

CBS News has it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...01-504083.html
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