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View Poll Results: Would you like to see same-sex marriage become legal where you live?
It is already legal where I live 18 6.02%
Yes 184 61.54%
No 92 30.77%
Not sure 5 1.67%
Voters: 299. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-05-2010, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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It's legal to discriminate against people, based on sexual orientation in a lot of states. It's illegal in fewer states. So both answers are right, it just depends on the state.
Sorry, should've specified:

Illegal to discriminate against homosexuals in the workplace or for housing.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Why is it complicated? It is light shining into darkness and darkness moving out of the way. Some people like the dark it's regularity predictability and they know it for decades..........and when it is taken away they are uncomfortable empty and frightened.

They are not hanging onto any def of marriage or rights.. they are hanging onto control.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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No... his sexuality is not a reason to remove himself anymore than a heterosexual should since by this reasoning they could be biased against the plaintiff.
sorry, I disagree. I don't know if his actions have anything to do with his sexual orientation, but in a case like this, just to be certain there is no conflict of interest, he should have been removed. He should have removed himself to be honest about it.

Nita
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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in the United States, if you vote to discriminate against a minority, then your vote does not count.

This has been proven time and again throughout the US's history.

Won't this have a negative impact on evangelicals?

They are a minority. Don't they count in your world?
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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It may be dumb in your world view, but we are talking about the law. The law does not recognize homosexuals as a protected class, and rightfully so. Someone's behavior should not be protected.
That would depend on what laws you are talking about, wouldn't it? Some states DO have laws that consider homosexuals to be a 'protected class'. And even in states where state law does not, some counties and/or cities have such laws. And it's not 'behavior' that is protected in those cases. It's simply who they are. Like my grandson is considered part of the protected class of handicapped people, not for his behavior but because of his physical limitations.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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sorry, I disagree. I don't know if his actions have anything to do with his sexual orientation, but in a case like this, just to be certain there is no conflict of interest, he should have been removed. He should have removed himself to be honest about it.

Nita
And it would've been impossible to put a unbiased judge to head it.

The judge's sexuality was irrelevant.

He still objectively stood over the court case.

Anyone who read the case would see this.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Not really. If 50% of people support gay marriage, and given only 5-10% of people are gay, it would seem that the non gays are less biased given that you'd think virtually all gays would support gay marriage, right?
Newsflash- not all gays support same sex marriage, believe it or not. especially older ones. I recently visited an 77 year old gay man who was against it. There is no guarantee that gay men would be in favor of same sex marriage. Walker is a professional judge who ruled the right way. By saying the judge displays animus in his decision is just sour grapes.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Won't this have a negative impact on evangelicals?
No, it won't have a negative impact on the evangelicals. It may hurt their feelings, but it in no ways intrudes on any of their rights or practices. They still have every right to not marry homosexuals if they feel it's necessary.

Homosexuals being able to marry has a negative impact on nobody.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Totally agree!

Much, much better to have a heterosexual decide this case - would be even better if the judge had been married and divorced a couple of times, so everyone would know that the judge was really well versed on the sanctity of marriage.

... and just to be clear, [/sarcasm]

If not this, then under what circumstances should a federal judge recuse his or her self?
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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People are, but person's personal behavior and/or preferences are not protected under the 14th amendment.
You keep using that word 'behavior'. Do you think being gay is about nothing but behavior? Let me clue you in - just as a celibate, heterosexual virgin is still heterosexual if they die at ninety, never having had a sexual relationship, a gay man who remains a virgin at death is still a gay man.
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