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If you're seriously going to argue that the history of white Americans is not taught enough in American schools then there's nothing to be discussed here.
European American history is widely taught in American schools; however, the history of African Americans and other racial groups are perceived in a positive connotation, unlike Euro-American history. In addition, the race or ethnicity of a great and influential Euro-American leader or hero is almost never mentioned. However, the race of a great African American leader or hero is frequently mentioned.
Like I said before, have you ever heard of George Washington or Douglass MacArthur referred to as "great European American/White American heroes"?
If you're seriously going to argue that the history of white Americans is not taught enough in American schools then there's nothing to be discussed here.
I didn't say white Americans. I asked about Japanese Americans and Italian Americans.
Why don't we have courses in Japanese American History? Or Italian American History? Or Chinese American History?
How can the school not be diverse when it is over 55% non-white or mixed raced?
I will never understand the thinking behind these people who are constantly pushing "diversity" just for the sake of diversity.
Silly C-D poster! You can't have 'diversity' until it's at least 90% nonwhite. Anything else is racism. (There; now everything is much clearer, isn't it?)
Once again, not to belabor the point...but this whole subject continues to mystify me....'Diversity'...'Multiculturalism'...'Toleranc e'..etc etc.
*No one TRULY advocates total diversity...for that would entail accepting and promoting the entire range of human behavior...the bad, as well as the good. Anyone who claims to want TOTAL diversity is either lying, or deluded. MOST of the world recognizes this fact..
*Multiculturalism? No such thing. The entire concept is only a few decades old. Cultures do not 'promote' each other, they promote their own members. NO culture looks upon another culture as 'just as good as it'. All cultures do things the 'sensible' way, and look at the other guy as doing things the 'hard way'...or the 'silly' way, or the 'wrong' way. Again, most of the world recognizes this, and most of the world has no desire to embrace multiculturalism.
*Tolerance? If something is GOOD, why must we 'tolerate' it? Wouldn't we happily embrace it? And if it's BAD, why would we WANT to tolerate it? "Tolerance", to my mind implies forcing oneself to accept that which is (apparently) intolerable; why would any sane person feel the need to 'tolerate' those things that are wrong, or bad? Wouldn't a sane person be able to differentiate bad and good?
Don't get me wrong here...I'm not some sort of 'grouch'. Now in the 41st year of an interracial marriage (3 kids, 4 grandkids)..with 3 races in my extended family, and probably 20 ethnicities..I do know something about 'differences'. But lots of this stuff just sounds silly to me.
I believe we Americans have a culture...an artificial culture born of the vast mixture inherited from our ancestors, in which we KEPT the good, and (hopefully) DISCARDED the bad...and now, we're Americans. As open-minded Americans, if something is good, we'll accept it, even if it's foreign, strange, and new to us....that, in fact, is the way the American culture came to be. However, if something (from another culture) is BAD, we should have the sense to reject it, without any sort of 'guilt' that we might be bigots (or worse). That's common sense....And once again, MOST of the world recognizes this...
European American history is widely taught in American schools; however, the history of African Americans and other racial groups are perceived in a positive connotation, unlike Euro-American history. In addition, the race or ethnicity of a great and influential Euro-American leader or hero is almost never mentioned. However, the race of a great African American leader or hero is frequently mentioned.
Like I said before, have you ever heard of George Washington or Douglass MacArthur referred to as "great European American/White American heroes"?
I've already explained this to you. Th ethnicity of white people in history isn't mentioned because people just assume that any important person is white unless otherwise specified. You're looking at it a though other groups have the privilege of the ethnicity of their historical figures pointed out. Instead you should look at it from the perspective that white people have the privilege of being the default group in America.
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Originally Posted by Roadking2003
I didn't say white Americans. I asked about Japanese Americans and Italian Americans.
Why don't we have courses in Japanese American History? Or Italian American History? Or Chinese American History?
Italian-Americans are European Americans. Need I refer you to a map?
Ideally we would teach history in an inclusive and non-biased way. Ideally being the operative word. PoC have to lobby for their history to be taught in classrooms and there's simply not enough political power behind Japanese and Chinese Americans to mount such an effort. Not to mention that the analogy is bunk given that blacks and native Americans were among the first people in the country.
Italian-Americans are European Americans. Need I refer you to a map?
Ideally we would teach history in an inclusive and non-biased way. Ideally being the operative word. PoC have to lobby for their history to be taught in classrooms and there's simply not enough political power behind Japanese and Chinese Americans to mount such an effort. Not to mention that the analogy is bunk given that blacks and native Americans were among the first people in the country.
Thank God I'm not the only one who knows this for a fact. Many people think of Italians as non-white.
Why is being polite, trying not to insult or hurt people, not ignorantly sterotyping individuals a bad thing. We use to raise our children to have good manners and treat others as we wanted to be treated so that they could function well as a positive member of the community. To many these days such well mannered behavior is labeled "politically correct" and used as an insult. Then wonder why we can't accomplish good things anymore. Whether people want to realize it or not, there is much that is good for all that can not be accomplished without the joint efforts of community. We use to know that.
Not to mention that the analogy is bunk given that blacks and native Americans were among the first people in the country.
really? i dont remember any black in leaf ericksons excursions to north america, nor do i remember any blacks when the chinese came here either in the 1000-1400 ad range. and columbus didnt have any blacks that i know of on his ships, i may be wrong on that, though, but cortez didnt have any blacks that i know of.
there is evidence that the chinese were here first, then the vikings, then the spaniards, then other northern europeans, and then the black africans.
Once again, not to belabor the point...but this whole subject continues to mystify me....'Diversity'...'Multiculturalism'...'Toleranc e'..etc etc.
It's not really a mystery. They're soothing-sounding code words that disguise particular agendas.
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