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Old 02-20-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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Plumbers and electricians are licensed and insured. You don't get a license and stay in business without knowing what you're doing. Non-union workers are just as productive if not more because they actually have to earn raises instead of the unions strong arming their employers for them.

The millions of "slaves" in the private sector are laughing at people like you. Not even a good try- epic fail
Not true. People have those kinds of licenses and do crappy work all the time. That's why they get sued.

 
Old 02-20-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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The Tea Party was hijacked by the republican party and the republicans are corporate fascists, therefore organized labor is a threat. It's that simple.
But this has nothing to do with corporations. This is about public unions. It's the average everyday taxpayer who pays the salaries of public unions.
 
Old 02-20-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Exactly who are even union members today? public employees sucking off the people who simply want to own a home and live. property taxes belong to the unions.that is wrong
 
Old 02-20-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Yeah, but I'll just bet she didn't turn down the pay rates and benefits negotiated by her union, did she? If it weren't for unions most people today would be no much more than slaves of their employees....How soon we forget. Book recommendation...Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck.

Man is the only kind of varmint sets his own trap, baits it, then steps in it.
John Steinbeck
you can say that about progresive democrats. the trap, big government the bait government is the solution! before we know it we will be slaves,but not to our employers but to the government!
 
Old 02-20-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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It's public unions in particular. It's not just the tea party..every private sector employee should have the deepest animosity towards public unions and their Democrat enablers. Public union members already enjoy a MUCH higher standard of living, income, benefits, retirement etc compared to non-public union workers... all thanks to tax payers. .
So in other words, cops, firemen, teachers, etc.... They should use that as their 2012 campaign slogan.
 
Old 02-21-2011, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why does disagreement equal hate?
Because disagreement is based on hatred against something.
 
Old 02-21-2011, 03:36 AM
 
Location: west mich
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The Tea-o-cons are crony capitalists who have joined the Tea party to keep it in the hands of the elite.
You are being conned.
You're right except it's more accurate to say they have been suckered. They are financed by billionaires, but believe they are grass-roots.
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You guys missed my point. The point of posting that was to show that union leadership is hardly "pro-worker."
Think you're broad-brushing a bit...
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I have never known a conservative to tell a lib what they(the lib)are thinking and why they are thinking it . I guess libs have a third eye.
The "third eye" is Rush, Beck, Fox, etal.
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Originally Posted by Jay F View Post
It's public unions in particular. It's not just the tea party..every private sector employee should have the deepest animosity towards public unions and their Democrat enablers. Public union members already enjoy a MUCH higher standard of living, income, benefits, retirement etc compared to non-public union workers... all thanks to tax payers.
There is no difference between public and other unions. I worked for the railroads and their benefits are much higher than for public employees.
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Yeah, but I'll just bet she didn't turn down the pay rates and benefits negotiated by her union, did she?
The going rates for non-union shops are set by union bargaining in an area.
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Originally Posted by Blind Sniper View Post
The Tea Party was hijacked by the republican party and the republicans are corporate fascists, therefore organized labor is a threat. It's that simple.
The tea party is organized and funded by Dick Armey and the billionaire heir Koch brothers. Their propaganda outlets are Fox "news" and Glenn Beck.
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you can say that about progresive democrats. the trap, big government the bait government is the solution! before we know it we will be slaves,but not to our employers but to the government!
This is Fox/Beck engendered paranoia. The govt takeover by corporations is almost complete. Progressives are warning against this.
 
Old 02-21-2011, 06:52 AM
 
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I think it's union leaders and the political system within that supports the Democrat Party exclusively.
In a state like California, you pay union dues whether you want to be a union member or not. There's something there that goes against the grain of freedom of choice inherent in the system.
Not only do they take your money and give it to causes,candidates i do not support they force you to listen to their propaganda,use intimidation and tell you how to vote. The Unions should only concern themselves to negotiation of contracts,safety issues and grievances.
 
Old 02-21-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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Because disagreement is based on hatred against something.
Really? If you actually hate everything you disagree with, then that would seem to lead to a pretty unhappy existence.
 
Old 02-21-2011, 08:03 PM
 
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Unions (police, firefighters, plumbers, electricians, teachers, factory workers, phone operators, etc, etc) have been a path for hard-working Americans to become middle class through collective bargaining for decent pay, benefits, and safe working conditions. Tea Baggers hate unions because they're TOLD to do so by the mega-rich financiers of their movement. The super rich (think Koch bros. and Rupert Murdoch) and corporations (think Walmart) have one goal: to enrich themselves. Unions do nothing but ask for a fair, livable share for their members. If it was up to the super rich, the American worker would be relegated to the same pay and working conditions as the Chinese; toiling 16 hours a day with no rights and little pay - unions are prohibited in communist China. These Tea Bag puppeteers get their minions (think uneducated poor/working class folk who are struggling economically) to rally against the union folk who are actually making a living due to their union affiliation. The puppeteers figure that it would be quite unpopular for the mega rich to put forth a full head-on assault on the American middle class. What better way to accomplish their goals than by getting non-union working class folk to do their work for them? Alls theys gots to do is funnel their money and pull the strings....DIABOLICAL!!!
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