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Old 09-03-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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And yet, not such a no brainer that you are actually able to wrap your brain around it.
I am going to have to correct myself and go with Ovcato on this. He has never said he wants Obama out, just prove he is eligible. To me, that is a principle.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:51 PM
 
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NO, because I do not see his gain as a paycheck, in fact, he stands to lose his paycheck. I believe he is standing on his principles.

Here is a story for ya. Years ago when my oldest Son was registering to play Pop Warner football they would not accept the hospital BC, we had to get a state issued BC which I thought was strange so I asked "why" and was told the hospital BC was to easy to fake. Go figure!
I think they meant that it would be too easy to substitute a different child for the hospital BC not that it would be easy to reproduce, I mean it had his little footprints on it after all and the hospital, doctor, etc..
a) I never had to submit a birth certificate to play sports in school, and none of my children have either.

b) President Obama has not released a "hospital BC", he's released a certification of live birth from the State of Hawai'i. This has been certified as authentic and accurate by the Governor of Hawai'i, Republican Linda Lingle, and the Director of the Hawai'i Department of Health, appointed by the Republican Governor.



Further details from the Pulitzer-prize winning non-partisan fact-check website PolitiFact:
PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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the COLB is state issued, not hospital issued. the BC with the footprints from the hospital is strictly commemorative.
And yet the only one that would be almost impossible to fake because of the footprints.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:53 PM
 
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NO, because I do not see his gain as a paycheck, in fact, he stands to lose his paycheck. I believe he is standing on his principles.

Here is a story for ya. Years ago when my oldest Son was registering to play Pop Warner football they would not accept the hospital BC, we had to get a state issued BC which I thought was strange so I asked "why" and was told the hospital BC was to easy to fake. Go figure!
I think they meant that it would be too easy to substitute a different child for the hospital BC not that it would be easy to reproduce, I mean it had his little footprints on it after all and the hospital, doctor, etc..
His gain isn't a paycheck. It's a gander at someone else's birth certificate. his reasons for wanting that gander are irrelevant to getting it, just like my reasons for wanting a paycheck are irrelevant to getting it.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:54 PM
 
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He has never said he wants Obama out, just prove he is eligible. To me, that is a principle.
obama has done more to prove his eligibility then both bush and clinton. lakin never doubted his orders under their command.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:58 PM
 
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a) I never had to submit a birth certificate to play sports in school, and none of my children have either.
Neither have I but, Pop Warner Football was not a school sport, nor was Queen City Baseball, Little League baseball, Independent League baseball, or AAU Basketball.
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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obama has done more to prove his eligibility then both bush and clinton. lakin never doubted his orders under their command.
I am not going to get into that quagmire again, Obama will have his wings clipped come November and will be gone soon enough after that.
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:01 PM
 
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And yet the only one that would be almost impossible to fake because of the footprints.
dermal ridges on the bottoms of the feet are not a constant like fingerprints. there is no way of telling if a baby footprint matched an adult. from a printer's point of view a hospital form would be very easy to fake ( especially for lack of security paper ).
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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I am not going to get into that quagmire again, Obama will have his wings clipped come November and will be gone soon enough after that.
then great, i support your right to decide.
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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I also don't get it. All this stuff, all these millions of dollars fighting a stupid birth certificate.. Just present it in court so that the rest of the court cases use it as background and its over with. Something is rotten in the state of denmark.
He has provided the ONLY copy he's entitled to get from the State of Hawaii, and the ONLY copy necessary and fully authentic and acceptable to prove natural born citizenship to every entity in this country that requires it.

You're wrong. Get over it.
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