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Old 09-04-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Someone challenged Bush's citizenship?
No but then he wasn't born in Kenya.
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Old 09-04-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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I don't know how the military justice system works, so I don't know if an appeal is possible. Anyone?
Courts Martial Appeal Court
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Old 09-04-2010, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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cause for appeal.

since his case rests upon whether or not pbo is actually able to be potus as he is not qualified as he was not born in the USA or any of its land, it stands that the defense should be able to make their case, insead of having the judge throw their defense out.
Nonsense.

The birth certificate, or certificate of live birth, that President Obama has already made public, has been authenticated by the people and entities that are charged with the responsibility of doing so. What that means is that Lakin has no evidence to submit to support his defense. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. And no court in this land is going to allow him to go on a fishing expedition. You either come to court prepared, or prepare to be ruled against.

In addition, the orders he's charged with defying didn't come directly from President Obama, they came from his Commanding Officer, so as the judge ruled, President Obama's college records and any of the other garbage he's trying to suss out, are immaterial to his case.

It's really that simple.
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Old 09-04-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Nonsense.

The birth certificate, or certificate of live birth, that President Obama has already made public, has been authenticated by the people and entities that are charged with the responsibility of doing so. What that means is that Lakin has no evidence to submit to support his defense. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. And no court in this land is going to allow him to go on a fishing expedition. You either come to court prepared, or prepare to be ruled against.

In addition, the orders he's charged with defying didn't come directly from President Obama, they came from his Commanding Officer, so as the judge ruled, President Obama's college records and any of the other garbage he's trying to suss out, are immaterial to his case.

It's really that simple.

too bad you dont know squat about military law.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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too bad you dont know squat about military law.
Too bad you don't, either. Seems the judge agrees with me, not you.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The same thing all Birthers are trying to gain politically.

They are trying to reverse the results of the November 2008 election.

What else?
We need that California judge who tried to reverse the vote of the people of California in 2008 concerning same sex marriage to review this case.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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Too bad you don't, either. Seems the judge agrees with me, not you.

will see what an appellate court says, and I know quite a bit about military law as well.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Generalities? The reversal of the 2008 election is very, very specific.
That is what those people in California thought when a majority of them voted against same sex marriage and a judge blew up their millions of votes.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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Generalities? The reversal of the 2008 election is very, very specific.
Specifically, that would an "embarassment", in the legal sense, of course.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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a) I never had to submit a birth certificate to play sports in school, and none of my children have either.

b) President Obama has not released a "hospital BC", he's released a certification of live birth from the State of Hawai'i. This has been certified as authentic and accurate by the Governor of Hawai'i, Republican Linda Lingle, and the Director of the Hawai'i Department of Health, appointed by the Republican Governor.



Further details from the Pulitzer-prize winning non-partisan fact-check website PolitiFact:
PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter
I coached in high school for over 28 years and never had to provide proof of birth for any of my athletes. However, I coached age group track and field for about 15 of those years and always had to carry state birth certificates with me because there were strict rules about age. I guess TG and his claims about Pop Warner requiring certificates really makes lots of sense to those who have some experience in these things.
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