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why do people care what others do? if someone is gay.. loves pornography, and wants an abortion.. why the hell do you care? worry about your own life.. not what others are doing. Their lives.. their bodies.. their choices...
spare us the "it's for the children" horse $hit.. because it's not.. it's about cultural control and conformity to your beliefs and ideals.. again.. worry about your own family, reproductive practices, and sexuality.. in other words get a life
No, I say you're wrong We can't allow our society to be a free for all when it comes to immoral behavior. We know that these things happen, but it doesn't mean that we have to condone it. If you want to live a sinful life thats your choice. just don't shove it down our throats.
No, I say you're wrong We can't allow our society to be a free for all when it comes to immoral behavior. We know that these things happen, but it doesn't mean that we have to condone it. If you want to live a sinful life thats your choice. just don't shove it down our throats.
who's shoving it down your throat?
so you've lost all access to personal choice in your life? cmon now..
worry about YOU.. not ME.. I'll look after ME thankyou very much
these are individuals protesting, these aren't lawmakers. there are a lot of laws I don't agree with, and I am within my rights to protest them. stage a counter protest if you don't like it. it's not like these individuals were out there picking fights.
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nope.. I'm gay.. and I'm not out protesting..
what's right will prevail, because I have faith in our constitution..
As for religious beliefs.. I think most of it is rubbish, but would I support keeping people from those beliefs and practicing it? absolutely not. Don't paint me with a brush so wide please..
I believe in live in let live... problem is.. people like to get up in everyone else's business. It's like being a mormon and trying to make coffee illegal for everyone.. just because you don't believe it's right.. doesn't mean you have the authority or the position to deny others access to it. don't like coffee.. don't drink it.. don't like pornography.. don't watch it.. buy it.. or support businesses that do.. don't like gay marriage.. don't get one.. don't like abortion.. don't get one...
so you tell me how that is narrow minded and disrespectful?
wake up to yourself
these are individuals protesting, these aren't lawmakers. there are a lot of laws I don't agree with, and I am within my rights to protest them. stage a counter protest if you don't like it. it's not like these individuals were out there picking fights.
no.. they have every right to protest.. but when you protest, you allow yourself to be ridiculed for your stance by onlookers. Their position is to outlaw these issues for EVERYONE. what kind of person thinks they are self righteous enough to have a say in someone else's choices in life??? they should worry about their choices on the matters.. and not concern themself with other's choices. what one person thinks is a sin.. is someone else's nightly ritual.. if they're not hurting anyone or treading upon someone else's life liberty and persuit of happiness.. why the hell do you care?
yes, I agree. But, when these so-called scientists continue to disregard, smear, and otherwise contradict God then this is what we get.
So very true. It is a combination of pathetic, sad...and humorous, when the so-called "enlightened bunch" make cutsey jokes about the "imaginary man in the sky".
Maybe it was earlier on this thread, or another one. (right now, I am not going to go back and look it up! Too lazy! LOL), where a poster challenged someone by asking the loaded and rhetorical question of why did (the other person) put his/her belief into something that cannot be proven to exist.
I want to take up that gaunlet.
No, I cannot prove God exists in the same way I can prove water freezes at 32 degrees. But I put my faith in His existence simply because the reality of the existence is very real to ME. No, I didn't start "speaking in tongues" nor would I be so damn stupid as to invite a rattle snake to give me a hickey! LOL
Rather, it was just a personal experience I had which made me believe, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that God is real and so is my personal savior, Jesus Christ. It was a totally euphoric moment, and I have never had anything happen like it before or since. But it was enough to eliminate any doubts (even though, for sure, doubts still arise sometime in the sense some questions are simply unanswerable).
What I guess I am saying is, the fact that Gods existence can't be concretely proven, doesn't negate the fact S/HE does. It is a matter of faith, pure and simple.
It is also quite inspirational and telling that the early Christians who were persecuted and tossed to the lions, did so without wavering in their faith.
People don't usually willingly and knowingly go to their deaths -- especially when torture and cruelty is involved -- for something they do not sincerely embrace and believe in.
why do I care about free speech? the same reason you care about gay marriage I assume. also, you claim to be a liberal, so how on earth can you say:
"what kind of person thinks they are self righteous enough to have a say in someone else's choices in life???"
is that a joke? the party of banning foods, sin taxes, banning trans fats, taxing soda, ect. are you seriously asking that question with a straight face, or are you just messing with me?
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no.. they have every right to protest.. but when you protest, you allow yourself to be ridiculed for your stance by onlookers. Their position is to outlaw these issues for EVERYONE. what kind of person thinks they are self righteous enough to have a say in someone else's choices in life??? they should worry about their choices on the matters.. and not concern themself with other's choices. what one person thinks is a sin.. is someone else's nightly ritual.. if they're not hurting anyone or treading upon someone else's life liberty and persuit of happiness.. why the hell do you care?
why do I care about free speech? the same reason you care about gay marriage I assume. also, you claim to be a liberal, so how on earth can you say:
"what kind of person thinks they are self righteous enough to have a say in someone else's choices in life???"
is that a joke? the party of banning foods, sin taxes, banning trans fats, taxing soda, ect. are you seriously asking that question with a straight face, or are you just messing with me?
I don't believe every liberal stance is correct.. the way I identify myself is with MOST of my positions... do I think it's correct to be banning all those things? no.. it falls in line with this.. but for the sake of staying on topic.. lets keep it to these issues..
as for free speech.. I care about free speech.. I think it's great they get out there and express their views.. but free speech is two sided.. that protects my right to free speech as well.. where I get to say they're foolish.. ignorant.. and bigots...
see how that works?
in fact.. it's great when bigots get out there and express themselves.. because then we see who they are now.. rather than having them hiding in the shaddows
for too long bigotry and intolerance has been hidden in religion.. and now people can see it for what it truely is.. and agree with them.. and head off to church... or disagree and further push religion off to the side where it belongs
who's shoving it down your throat?
so you've lost all access to personal choice in your life? cmon now..
worry about YOU.. not ME.. I'll look after ME thankyou very much
I'm all for personal choice. like I said... do what you want, but do it behind closed doors.
I don't believe every liberal stance is correct.. the way I identify myself is with MOST of my positions... do I think it's correct to be banning all those things? no.. it falls in line with this.. but for the sake of staying on topic.. lets keep it to these issues..
as for free speech.. I care about free speech.. I think it's great they get out there and express their views.. but free speech is two sided.. that protects my right to free speech as well.. where I get to say they're foolish.. ignorant.. and bigots...
see how that works?
in fact.. it's great when bigots get out there and express themselves.. because then we see who they are now.. rather than having them hiding in the shaddows
for too long bigotry and intolerance has been hidden in religion.. and now people can see it for what it truely is.. and agree with them.. and head off to church... or disagree and further push religion off to the side where it belongs
And others get to say that your lifestyle choice is perverse and disgusting - and that, though you are perfectly free to conduct your personal life as you please, talk of "gay" marriage is ridiculous on it's face.
See how that works?
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We can't allow our society to be a free for all when it comes to immoral behavior. We know that these things happen, but it doesn't mean that we have to condone it. If you want to live a sinful life thats your choice. just don't shove it down our throats.
