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Old 09-09-2010, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"In Cleveland, Ohio, today, President Obama said, 'I believe government should be lean; government should be efficient. I believe government should leave people free to make the choices they think are best for themselves and their families, so long as those choices don’t hurt others.'” (He actually said this yesterday, not today.)

President Obama: I Believe Government Should Be Lean - Political Punch

Uh-huh...except for all of that government hiring planned to support Obamacare.

"That big number of 600,000 is the total hiring during the four years of Obama’s current term for all types of federal government positions. This is equivalent to nearly one-third of the current federal workforce.

Feds to Hire 600,000 Employees by 2012 - GovCentral.com

The same article goes on to say that 240,000 are expected to retire during that same period four year period. That's a difference of 360,000 more feds and he's talking about lean government? Lean government is reducing the size of the federal government. He's not even planning to keep it at 2008 levels.

The way I see it, the Republicans first job if they win in November is kicking back the appropriations bills to fund this Frankenstein monster.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Government makes nothing but more government.
Government gives nothing but that which belonged to someone else.
Government takes everything it can get away with.

Do not "Feed" the government!
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Like Lewis Black said, "lean" is subjective.

LiveLeak.com - Lewis Black on IHOP
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:24 AM
 
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no wonder corporatations are not hiring and financial firms are not lending.

This "new america" is becoming more like cuba.

Get ready for some more deflation folks
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:24 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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obama's solution to the unemployment problem: everyone will work for the 'lean' government.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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no wonder corporatations are not hiring and financial firms are not lending.

This "new america" is becoming more like cuba.

Get ready for some more deflation folks
How can deflation occur if government has to pay out such large payrolls?

Maybe you mean deflation in assets like real estate, cars, durable goods. HIGH inflation for consumer goods like food and energy. Basically, the poor will suffer the most. Is that what you mean?
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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How can deflation occur if government has to pay out such large payrolls?

Deflation in assets like real estate, cars, durable goods. HIGH inflation for consumer goods like food and energy. Basically, the poor will suffer the most.


Deflation will occur when growth stops. (which it's pretty much doing since the rise of obama in 2008)



Look at Japan, same thing happend there. They've done a "stimulus almost every year since 1990. There stock makret is 76% lower since then.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:34 AM
 
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"In Cleveland, Ohio, today, President Obama said, 'I believe government should be lean; government should be efficient. I believe government should leave people free to make the choices they think are best for themselves and their families, so long as those choices don’t hurt others.'” (He actually said this yesterday, not today.)

President Obama: I Believe Government Should Be Lean - Political Punch

Uh-huh...except for all of that government hiring planned to support Obamacare.

"That big number of 600,000 is the total hiring during the four years of Obama’s current term for all types of federal government positions. This is equivalent to nearly one-third of the current federal workforce.

Feds to Hire 600,000 Employees by 2012 - GovCentral.com

The same article goes on to say that 240,000 are expected to retire during that same period four year period. That's a difference of 360,000 more feds and he's talking about lean government? Lean government is reducing the size of the federal government. He's not even planning to keep it at 2008 levels.

The way I see it, the Republicans first job if they win in November is kicking back the appropriations bills to fund this Frankenstein monster.
Didn't you read your own article?
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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Didn't you read your own article?
I agree. The article talks about the number of Federal employees that will be retiring or otherwise leaving the government, and so many of these new hires will be replacements.

"One-third of the 1.9 million member civilian federal workforce is expected to retire or resign in the next five years. The Partnership expects over 240,000 federal employees to retire between 2008 and 2012. This means thousands of government job opportunities nationwide.

Maintaining its mission of securing the country, the Department of Homeland Security is projecting 65,730 openings, up 37 percent from the previous report."

One-third of 1.9 million is around 600,00.
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