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Old 09-16-2010, 06:51 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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That's exactly what she was suggesting. She wants an English only law passed so ballots ( to use her own words) could only be printed in English.

Now remember.

The "Tea Party" which claims to be for small government, and personal freedom, and individual liberty, just elected this kook who wants to use the Government to help compel fellow Americans to learn the official State sponsored language.

These people have no shame whatsoever!
I must have missed something,how is this bad exactly?

Wouldn't you expect to learn the language if you were to assimilate in a new country?Or do you expect your new homeland to change to fit you?
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:53 AM
 
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She is pathetic.
Why exactly?
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:55 AM
 
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By government decree English is the official language. Ballots cannot be printed in another language.

Rightwingers sure throw out the "State's rights" issue whenever it suits you.

What if a community wants their ballots in Spanish as well!?

Who are you to tell them they can't do that??
Could you provide some link to exactly what she would want enacted?

Because unless we know exactly what she would want enacted,we are just wasting time and energy posting 'what ifs'....

Best to start from some solid basis for a logical discussion,we don't want this to simply be a 'hit' thread with no basis in facts.
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:56 AM
 
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I must have missed something,how is this bad exactly?

Wouldn't you expect to learn the language if you were to assimilate in a new country?Or do you expect your new homeland to change to fit you?
I totally 100% agree with you.

But of course you missed the point.

This is about bigots ( more or less) using government legislation to stick it immigrants. It make them feel good.

Stop crying about big government then turning around and trying to control immigrant Americans lives using government legislation.

Are you completely incapable of applying your so called principles fairly?
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:58 AM
 
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Could you provide some link to exactly what she would want enacted?

Because unless we know exactly what she would want enacted,we are just wasting time and energy posting 'what ifs'....

Best to start from some solid basis for a logical discussion,we don't want this to simply be a 'hit' thread with no basis in facts.
Look at the video and go to the point where she talks about english only ballots and stop wasting my time.
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:59 AM
 
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I'm all for a law mandating that English be the official language of the USA.

However, the law must be clear that it is 'the King's English' that is official, that is to say, after 1600 A.D. (the language of Shakespeare).

With proper grammar usage and correct spelling, of course.

Further I sayeth not, save concerning the topic of being the "Master of my Domain":


Brutus:
Let me tell you, Cassius, you yourself
Are much condemn'd to have an itching palm,
To sell and mart your offices for gold
To undeservers.

Cassius:
I, an itching palm!


(Julius Caesar, Act 4, Scene 3, 7-12)
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:00 AM
 
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I totally 100% agree with you.

But of course you missed the point.

This is about bigots ( more or less) using government legislation to stick it immigrants. It make them feel good.

Stop crying about big government then turning around and trying to control immigrant Americans lives using government legislation.

Are you completely incapable of applying your so called principles fairly?
When people talk of "big government" they are referring to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, not the state. When the country was founded, most states had an offical state-sponsored religion.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:02 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I totally 100% agree with you.

But of course you missed the point.

This is about bigots ( more or less) using government legislation to stick it immigrants. It make them feel good.

Stop crying about big government then turning around and trying to control immigrant Americans lives using government legislation.

Are you completely incapable of applying your so called principles fairly?
You agree with me 100% that immigrants should assimilate to their new homeland but then do not want any laws on the books that do not cater to their speaking a different language,how is assimilation possible?

Also,to vote in this country you must be a citizen,and you think a US citizen should speak English to live here (by agreeing with me 100% as you stated above) so what is the issue you have?
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:03 AM
 
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Look at the video and go to the point where she talks about english only ballots and stop wasting my time.
Post her proposed law so we can all read it,if this is her position it should be written somewhere.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:04 AM
 
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Not at all.

I'll masturbate and vote against anti-immigrant legislation whenever I damn well wish.

Bigots and religious scolds can go jump in a lake.

And since when is what an adult does in the privacy of his own home an "issue" that needs to be debated?

Go away!......... Bible beaters!
I agree- we should be electing officials to Govern. Not be our Mommies and Daddies.
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