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Old 09-18-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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Many Tea Party people on this board have denied the general opinion that the Tea Party has become merely a wing of the GOP and has been thoroughly coopted by the right wing of the GOP.

So, if this is the case, why doesn't the Tea Party, instead of or in addition to running candidates in GOP primaries against moderate Republicans, run candidates in Democratic primaries? There are certain House districts which are so dominated by one party that the other major party often doesn't run anyone, or else pretty much anyone who goes through the proper procedures gets the nomination of the party that doesn't hold the seat. It would be easy for a Tea Party candidate to get the Democratic nomination in districts which are so heavily Republican that the Dems usually aren't interested in running anyone - if the Tea Party truly is (or still is) nonpartisan and about principles (despite considerable evidence to the contrary, but which is denied by teabaggers on C-D) than I see no reason why it wouldn't be willing to do this.

So, why no Tea Party "infiltration" of the Dems?
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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If they infiltrated the Democratic Party then you would have to turn to a Third Party for sanity. It would definitely be a boon to the Greens and Libertarians if your scenario were to come true.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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Can you show me a fiscally conservative Democrat? One whose votes have been for cutting government spending significantly rather than to raise taxes?

If not, that might be exactly your answer to your question.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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there are very few fiscal conservative democrats around these days. many run as fiscally conservative, but they get into office and spend like a liberal. case in point gabriel giffords here in az. she made claims of being fiscally responsible then went to congress and voted for the health care reform law, the steal from us package, and every other liberal spending bill that came up for a vote.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Many Tea Party people on this board have denied the general opinion that the Tea Party has become merely a wing of the GOP and has been thoroughly coopted by the right wing of the GOP.

So, if this is the case, why doesn't the Tea Party, instead of or in addition to running candidates in GOP primaries against moderate Republicans, run candidates in Democratic primaries? There are certain House districts which are so dominated by one party that the other major party often doesn't run anyone, or else pretty much anyone who goes through the proper procedures gets the nomination of the party that doesn't hold the seat. It would be easy for a Tea Party candidate to get the Democratic nomination in districts which are so heavily Republican that the Dems usually aren't interested in running anyone - if the Tea Party truly is (or still is) nonpartisan and about principles (despite considerable evidence to the contrary, but which is denied by teabaggers on C-D) than I see no reason why it wouldn't be willing to do this.

So, why no Tea Party "infiltration" of the Dems?
Because they are nothing more then ultra conservative republicans in disguise.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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So, why no Tea Party "infiltration" of the Dems?
At the end of the day they are just republicans with tea bags on their heads who probably got a bad grade in 9th grade history.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:50 AM
 
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Can you show me a fiscally conservative Democrat? One whose votes have been for cutting government spending significantly rather than to raise taxes?
Unfamiliar with the Western Blue Dogs?

Tester and Schweitzer come to mind.

Wyden, to some extent. There are others who I haven't even mentioned. But they definitely exist, generally in the Mountain West and Oregon.

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If not, that might be exactly your answer to your question.
Well, if there weren't that many "fiscally conservative Democrats" (there are more than you think), you'd think the Tea Party would seek to put in more fiscally conservative Democrats if they really aren't about party and if they really aren't a wing of the GOP. And particularly because in some states there are districts that are so Republican that to get the Democratic nomination all one would have to do would be merely to show up and do the proper procedures.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:52 AM
 
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Perhaps if the few fiscally conservative Democrats that may or may not exist showed up as speakers at Tea Party rallies they would prove that they are not all about partisanship.

Moderate Republican = Progressive RINO. Fail, huge fail.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:54 AM
 
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Because they are nothing more then ultra conservative republicans in disguise.
Yes, I know that, but I'm looking for responses from Tea Party supporters themselves who make pretenses that the Tea Party is still non partisan and has not been coopted by the GOP, that it's still about Ron Paul rather than about Sarah Palin, that it's still about economic issues and limited government and not social conservatism.

"Yes, (the Tea Party) are, for the most part, emphasizing economic and fiscal issues, which is wonderful, even though they have no actual realistic plans to cut spending by the amount they would have to if taxes are not to rise. But that does not mean they have in any way forsaken the social issues substantively. Name a tea-party candidate who is pro-choice. Name one who backs marriage equality. Name one who wants to withdraw from Afghanistan beginning next year. Name one who has opposed torture. Name one who has the slightest qualms about police powers. Name one who would end the military ban on gays serving openly, and take even the slightest political risk on any of these subjects.
"I welcome the belated right-wing opposition to out-of-control government spending. But the one thing you have to note about tea-party fervor is that none of it existed when they had real leverage over a Republican president, who spent us into bankruptcy. That tells you something."


Can The Tea Party Reach Out To Social Libertarians? - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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Perhaps if the few fiscally conservative Democrats that may or may not exist showed up as speakers at Tea Party rallies they would prove that they are not all about partisanship.

Moderate Republican = Progressive RINO. Fail, huge fail.
Would the Tea Party rallies even want those Dems, especially at this point, when the Tea Party is a wholly owned GOP subsidiary?
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