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Old 05-16-2014, 11:37 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The way it works for free people.....

It is only illegal, if you get caught.

Nothing is illegal, things are just deterred, with the threat of punishment.
It does not keep you from doing it, if you have your mind set.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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Many people consider abortion murder but that happens every day. I think abortion proves that human beings can justify anything to themselves if it makes their lives easier.

Like killing 100,000 innocents in Dresden in WWII and calling it a military campaign. A cultural, art center with very little military value. But the pilots got medals for it.

Who was it that said if you kill one you're a murderer, if you kill a million you are a hero?
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It is still illegal, even if you don't get caught...
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Nope, the definition of murder isn't conditional on whether you get caught.

As nearly as I can tell, the state of mind of someone who commits murder is either

1) a state of rage or other strong emotion that precludes the murderer from thinking straight about the consequences or

2) a state of cold calculation because the murderer thinks s/he has a fool-proof plan.

(Note I am talking here about 1st degree murder)

In neither case does the threat of punishment stop the murderer.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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It is still illegal, even if you don't get caught...
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Nope, the definition of murder isn't conditional on whether you get caught.

As nearly as I can tell, the state of mind of someone who commits murder is either

1) a state of rage or other strong emotion that precludes the murderer from thinking straight about the consequences or

2) a state of cold calculation because the murderer thinks s/he has a fool-proof plan.

(Note I am talking here about 1st degree murder)

In neither case does the threat of punishment stop the murderer.
absolutely right, which is why there is no statute of limitations on murder. they will hunt you down and bring you to justice, even more than 30 years later as some have found out.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Is murder, really all that illegal?

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The way it works for free people.....

It is only illegal, if you get caught.

Nothing is illegal, things are just deterred, with the threat of punishment.
It does not keep you from doing it, if you have your mind set.
Consult a local law office.

Anonymously would be better.

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Old 05-16-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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There is de jure legal and de facto legal. De jure just refers to the laws on the books, regardless of enforcement. De facto refers to how things actually work. It's possible to have something that is de jure illegal but de facto legal, or even the other way around (like how alcohol is de jure legal in Iraq, but if you sell it in the wrong areas, vigilantes might bomb you, making it de facto illegal).

Murder is de facto legal in some parts of America, and in some circumstances. Basically, if you commit a murder in a "high crime" area of a major American city, your chances of ever being arrested or prosecuted might be as low as 5 or 10%. It is de facto legal unless you get caught right in the act. The US has 5,000 "uncleared" murders every single year, which is quite bad by developed-world standards.

Note that a "cleared" murder doesn't mean the case ended with a suspect dead or incarcerated - it could also just mean that the police believe they have a final suspect, whether or not they have enough evidence for an arrest.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:45 PM
 
Location: North America
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The legality of a crime isn't determined on whether or not you get caught. Any thinking adult knows this.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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Any thinking adult knows this.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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There is always SSS.

Shoot...shovel....shut-up.....:
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