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Old 10-14-2010, 01:28 PM
 
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Corporations are products of State governments.

The Robert's decision grants too much power to the States to influence Federal elections.

Delaware is going to rule the United States.

Don't get me started about foreign corporations and banks.

This picces me off.

This picces me right off!

State's Rights is States' Rights, but Robert's ain't been right yet!
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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Corporations are products of State governments.
Wrong.. Corporations are legal INDIVIDUALS.. not a product..
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The Robert's decision grants too much power to the States to influence Federal elections.
What actions are the states taken to influence ANY elections.. The are allowing those individuals above.. to exercise their constitutional right.. Do you have any problem with unions and groups like ACORN influencing the elections?
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Delaware is going to rule the United States.

Don't get me started about foreign corporations and banks.

This picces me off.

This picces me right off!

State's Rights is States' Rights, but Robert's ain't been right yet!
Neither is your understanding of ones legal right to do with your own money what you want..
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:56 PM
 
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Wrong.. Corporations are legal INDIVIDUALS.. not a product..
I believe that's, "legal persons". Collectives are not individuals.

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What actions are the states taken to influence ANY elections.. The are allowing those individuals above.. to exercise their constitutional right.. Do you have any problem with unions and groups like ACORN influencing the elections?
A State Charter does not have any constitutional rights. It has no existence beyond paper. My dog is more a person than a piece of paper. Some dogs actually HAVE papers as an extension of their real existence. Mine has newspapers.

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Neither is your understanding of ones legal right to do with your own money what you want..
Corporations are not "ones", they are manys. Monies, that is!
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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Multinationals and foreign corporations are a bigger concern in my book, because they may not always be working in American's best interests when they try to influence legislation here.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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Corporations are products of State governments.

The Robert's decision grants too much power to the States to influence Federal elections.

Delaware is going to rule the United States.

Don't get me started about foreign corporations and banks.

This picces me off.

This picces me right off!

State's Rights is States' Rights, but Robert's ain't been right yet!
In 2008 the unions spent 450 million to elect Obama. Did that "picces" you off too?
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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I believe that's, "legal persons". Collectives are not individuals.
There is no "Collectives" in a Corporation. Its a Corporation of ONE Business..
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A State Charter does not have any constitutional rights. It has no existence beyond paper.
Without any constitutional rights, there is no constitutional obligation.. Are you telling me Corporations arent obligated then to pay taxes?
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My dog is more a person than a piece of paper.
You file taxes for your dog?
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Some dogs actually HAVE papers as an extension of their real existence. Mine has newspapers.
You do the same for Corporations..
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Corporations are not "ones", they are manys. Monies, that is!
Wrong.. The legal definition of a corporation is
[SIZE=3]corporation[/SIZE] n. an organization formed with state governmental approval to act as an artificial person to carry on business (or other activities), which can sue or be sued, and (unless it is non-profit) can issue shares of stock to raise funds with which to start a business or increase its capital.

Thats PERSON.. SINGULAR!!
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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In 2008 the unions spent 450 million to elect Obama. Did that "picces" you off too?
Well, YA!

But two wrongs still make for an improper balance.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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Multinationals and foreign corporations are a bigger concern in my book, because they may not always be working in American's best interests when they try to influence legislation here.
Neither are corporations or the individuals when they donate to campaigns. They are all buying their OWN influcence.. they are not contributing to ensure the candidate does whats in the best interest of the nation..
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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There is no "Collectives" in a Corporation. Its a Corporation of ONE Business..

Without any constitutional rights, there is no constitutional obligation.. Are you telling me Corporations arent obligated then to pay taxes?

You file taxes for your dog?

You do the same for Corporations..

Wrong.. The legal definition of a corporation is
[SIZE=3]corporation[/SIZE] n. an organization formed with state governmental approval to act as an artificial person to carry on business (or other activities), which can sue or be sued, and (unless it is non-profit) can issue shares of stock to raise funds with which to start a business or increase its capital.

Thats PERSON.. SINGULAR!!

A single corporation is still a plural! I think it requires at least two different persons as officers.

Want me to look up the word "collective" for you?
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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A single corporation is still a plural!
No its not.. Its a SINGLE PERSON..
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Want me to look up the word "collective" for you?
As soon as you tell me what the word "collective" has to do with Corporation because Corporations are NOT "collectives"..
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