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Originally Posted by Alexus
If Bush could do two terms, I don't think there ever will be another president who does NOT do two terms. Keep dreamin, Pubs. You were wrong about Bush, and wrong about everything else.
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bush 41 and carter ring a bell? these were only one term presidents, and bush 41 won a war!
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Originally Posted by Mircea
That's really short-sighted.
His own party is defecting from him even now.
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do not count obama out in 2012. unless the economy takes a serious downturn, or he chooses not to run for a second term, obama will very likely be the democrat nominee for 2012.
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Obama will not get an automatic renomination. There's too much dissent in the Democratic Party, and most think he's unelectable. Someone said we can't know what will happen over the next two years, well that person isn't living in reality. We can know what will happen. We knew two years ago that unemployment would be 10% all year this year. We were right. And we'll be right next year, and the year after that.
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unless there is a real opponent in the democrat party that is the opposite of obama politically, he will be the nominee. very few candidates of the same party beat a sitting president in the primaries.
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You should consider the possibility that Obama might pull a Johnson. He could say he chooses not to run for re-election in order to focus on the economy and other problems. As a strategy, that would be the best thing the Democratic Party could do, and remember, it is the Democratic Party that is in charge, not Obama. The Democrats are not obligated to give him in any financial help with his campaign, nor are they obligated to help him get on any primary ballots, and he runs as a Democrat only under their authority.
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well unless he does pull a johnson and choose not to run for a second term, the democrats will back him.
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You should also consider that if the Republicans do not field a viable candidate, they will not win, and none of those who ran in 2008 are viable candidates.
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actually any of the conservative candidates in the republican field can beat obama in 2012, if they have a solid message, and stay on that message, and if the republicans put forth a proper effort at reining in government over the next two years, and if obama fights with them the entire way. clinton was looking like a one term president in 1994, and the republicans took both houses of congress, and clinton moved to the center, and won a second term. this time congress will be divided, the house being in republican hands, and the senate being in democrat hands, and both sides are going to have to work together to solve the problems, and the people will be watching, and they will see through the spin that will inevitably happen from both sides.