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Old 10-31-2010, 12:13 AM
 
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I want to hear the conservatives solutions for poverty in America and the liberals solutions
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Old 10-31-2010, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Simple solution - cut government by 93.44%.
Oh, right, can't do that - "Voluntary" national socialism.
Hmmm - well, Congress is already borrowing more than it pays in debt service (interest) - which means it is doing what Bernie Madoff was sent to prison for doing in the private sector. Uh oh. What happens when new investors realize they're paying old investors?
Bummer.
Okay, let's try "withdraw consent".
If / When 51% leave national socialism, the system implodes. Insufficient collateral causes the "dollar bill" to crash. International trade halts until a new system of equitable trade is worked out... minus the "dollar bill". Creditors ruined. Bond holders ruined. Oh my.
(Drat - not a good plan)
Maybe we can just enslave everyone, and make them "share their wealth", like BHO says we should.
Ouch, not a good plan.
I give up...
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Old 10-31-2010, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Liberals: "OMG! You poor man! Here, have a check."

Conservatives: "Get a job!"

Surely, the solution lies somewhere between those two extremes, but it can't be found for all the yelling and finger-pointing.
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Old 10-31-2010, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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There is no solution, Jesus said the poor will always be with you and so far he has been right.
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Old 10-31-2010, 03:46 AM
 
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Easy fix - Soylent Green.
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Old 10-31-2010, 03:59 AM
 
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I think you start by creating an environment where business can flourish and don't reward those that flounder. The left has it backwards, punish successful business's with more taxes (Exxon) and reward those that fail (GM) or would never exist to begin with (wind and solar generation).
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Old 10-31-2010, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I think you start by creating an environment where business can flourish and don't reward those that flounder. The left has it backwards, punish successful business's with more taxes (Exxon) and reward those that fail (GM) or would never exist to begin with (wind and solar generation).

The GOP hasn't had it right either. All their support of business has resulted in is tax breaks for taking jobs overseas and increased corporate profits which haven't resulted in job creation. Their focus has been stock values as a measure of success, and not jobs.
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Old 10-31-2010, 05:43 AM
 
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All their support of business has resulted in is tax breaks for taking jobs overseas and increased corporate profits which haven't resulted in job creation.
Taxes is one thing that drives them out of this country among many other things.
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The Tax Foundation - U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes

[LEFT]When compared to other OECD countries:[/LEFT]
  • 24 U.S. states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than top-ranked Japan.
  • 32 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than third-ranked Germany.
  • 46 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than fourth-ranked Canada.
  • All 50 states have a combined corporate tax rate higher than fifth-ranked France.
Jobs going overseas is about survival, cut costs to remain competitive or go bankrupt.

Personally I think you simply eliminate all taxes on business and corporations and place them onto the consumers because they are paying them anyway. Let's say we have a national sales tax instead of business taxes with this tax being itemized on sales receipts. The consumer can then know exactly how much they are paying instead of it being lumped into the cost of the product.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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There is no possible way a solution can be found if those in poverty do nothing themselves to try to get out.

What is the saying? You can lead a horse to water but, you can't make him drink.
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Old 10-31-2010, 08:50 AM
 
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jetgraphics has the right idea. But if you still wanna know, cutting business regulations and start using those tariffs would be a good place to start. Though China holds most of our debt so there goes that idea out the window, and most of our jobs are going to China. Bummer. Silly Democrat Bill Clinton, signing a bill that gives China preferential trade status with the U.S.
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