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The EPA is ridiculous. I have to work with them on a daily basis they limit you on everything with guidelines to follow, Then try to find ways to fine you for working within those guidelines.
The EPA is ridiculous. I have to work with them on a daily basis they limit you on everything with guidelines to follow, Then try to find ways to fine you for working within those guidelines.
This is how they extend their power, by creating a need for it. If they aren't fining someone they aren't needed. Let's call it creating job security.
1. There is a large amount of proof that there is global warming.
2. There is almost 0 proof that we can do anything about it.
These are the two points that everyone must understand when we talk about climate change.
I'm all for getting off of non renewable forms of energy. If its a finite resource, we need to move to something that has no end. Whether thats solar, wind, or whatever, we need to move off of oil.
BUT.....
We should not bankrupt the economy and the country on some silly crusade to end all carbon emissions overnight. We should work on the problems in a well thought out matter. Energy independence is a national security issue, IMO, and it should be attacked in such a matter.
You know what the AGW fanatics don't realize? WE breathe out MORE CO2 than the intended targets are for reducing CO2 output. I forget the exact numbers, someone can correct me on them but let's say, hypothetically, the AGW crows wants to limit CO2 output to no more than 150ppm. How is that gonna be accomplished, when the average human breathes out 200ppm?? This is a problem that is physically impossible to solve and it's meant to be that way. If it was all about reducing CO2 emissions, why are we still playing around with a bankrupting cap-and-trade system?? This is a scam and the liberals don't want to realize they are being taken for a ride! The globalists know that reducing our factories and moving our wealth to the 3rd World will make them develop and prosper at our expense? But why? Because they KNOW, when a nation and people develop the population starts to SHRINK. Ever wonder why the birthrates among the world's most successful nations are so low, yet the birthrate for 3rd world countries is really high? The population of the developed world is shrinking, and the 3rd world's is growing every year. Forced sterilizations, Chinese style limits, and genocides are not in vogue anymore. So the only way to shrink the population, and make them easier to control, is to do what the globalists have not wanted. And that is to develop the 3rd World.
This sounds like a nice lofty goal to the left, but what the left doesn't know, is that our standard of living will not go up or stay the same. It will continue to go down, until we are all equally miserable across the world. This is what happened in socialist countries like the USSR. They all start out with the worker is king, and it always ends with unaccountable government bureaucrats at the top and the worker always ends up scraping the bottom of the barrel for what's left. The same thing is going to happen with the carbon trading scheme!
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You would suggest a bureaucrat decide this as opposed to our elected representatives? Keep digging...LOL
So you are saying we should subjugate people's jobs that are based on scientific facts and figures to the whim of elected officials pandering for votes to what is popular? Argumentum ad populum is a very old fallacy.
You know what the AGW fanatics don't realize? WE breathe out MORE CO2 than the intended targets are for reducing CO2 output. I forget the exact numbers, someone can correct me on them but let's say, hypothetically, the AGW crows wants to limit CO2 output to no more than 150ppm. How is that gonna be accomplished, when the average human breathes out 200ppm?? This is a problem that is physically impossible to solve and it's meant to be that way. If it was all about reducing CO2 emissions, why are we still playing around with a bankrupting cap-and-trade system?? This is a scam and the liberals don't want to realize they are being taken for a ride!
Yeah, we emit more CO2, and cows emit more methane then we emit through production or energy needs.
But, if there is one thing I know, Humans screw crap up. We are nasty little critters that usually destroy everything we touch.
The less we can effect the planet, the better. Doesn't mean we should destroy the economy in the mean time. There is a smart approach to ending carbon emissions, and a dumb one. That also doesn't mean we can stick our heads in the ground and think that nothing is happening. We should do all we can to minimize our impact on the planet, but do it in a reasonable manner.
You know what the AGW fanatics don't realize? WE breathe out MORE CO2 than the intended targets are for reducing CO2 output. I forget the exact numbers, someone can correct me on them but let's say, hypothetically, the AGW crows wants to limit CO2 output to no more than 150ppm. How is that gonna be accomplished, when the average human breathes out 200ppm?? This is a problem that is physically impossible to solve and it's meant to be that way. If it was all about reducing CO2 emissions, why are we still playing around with a bankrupting cap-and-trade system?? This is a scam and the liberals don't want to realize they are being taken for a ride! The globalists know that reducing our factories and moving our wealth to the 3rd World will make them develop and prosper at our expense? But why? Because they KNOW, when a nation and people develop the population starts to SHRINK. Ever wonder why the birthrates among the world's most successful nations are so low, yet the birthrate for 3rd world countries is really high? The population of the developed world is shrinking, and the 3rd world's is growing every year. Forced sterilizations, Chinese style limits, and genocides are not in vogue anymore. So the only way to shrink the population, and make them easier to control, is to do what the globalists have not wanted. And that is to develop the 3rd World
The AGW "fanatics" want to reduce it to 350, not 150 ppm. 350.org
So you are saying we should subjugate people's jobs that are based on scientific facts and figures to the whim of elected officials pandering for votes to what is popular?.
I'm saying no one in this country is above the will of the people and this fact will proven on Nov 2.
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