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But his tax cuts didn't expire in 2007, so you're taking that statistic out of context. They didn't prevent the job loss in the following years, even though they did not expire.
1) 2007 the economy collapsed..
2) Tax cuts do not preven job losses.. If you arent making money, you are not subject to taxes
3) Tax cuts CREATE jobs because government CANT..
1) 2007 the economy collapsed..
2) Tax cuts do not preven job losses.. If you arent making money, you are not subject to taxes
3) Tax cuts CREATE jobs because government CANT..
But the Bush tax cuts are still in effect. If you are arguing that slowly over time they will create jobs that is one thing, but they haven't been that beneficial for us the last few years. If you are going to associate economic prosperity with tax cuts then you have to acknowledge the effect tax cuts have during an economic downturn. You can't pretend like suddenly they don't effect anything. When many people loose their jobs at once, like when the economy crashed, our the nation's tax revenue goes down. Regardless of how much money you put into your government, how large a government you have, a drastic reduction in revenue has consequences. That is why taxes historically go up for those who can afford it in time like these.
But my real point was that you are happy to acknowledge the jobs the Bush policies created, but seem oddly mum on the jobs his policy lost. I think it is odd that so many people contribute what happened in 2008 to Obama. He didn't take office until 2009, but most Republican arguments today seem to have conveniently forgotten this fact.
Republicans need to take into account how split voters are on solutions to the country's problems. There doesn't seem to be a mandate necessarily for their solutions according to voters polled.
Oh really? What they have said clearly is, Obamas agenda isn't it! What they have said clearly is that they do not want a "fundamental transformation of America" into a Marxist/socialist government. They do not want "redistribution of wealth" and they do not want "Obabamacare"
They want nothing to do with this so-called presidents agenda. What they want is freedom, less government, and less regulation.
Wake up!!! Do you 'get it', chump? Get a clue, buster. You lost. It's our turn now.
List some of these policies from the 1990's that you disapprove of.. The balanced budgets? The job creations? The economic stimulations and increased income for all? What exactly were you unhappy with
Boo hoo hoo... Why would you want to keep someone who has failed with everyone of their policies?
This guy is a joke. Never mind him. He didn't vote Republican. This is a scam. Trust me. This is how they work. He is as liberal as they come.
But the Bush tax cuts are still in effect. If you are arguing that slowly over time they will create jobs that is one thing, but they haven't been that beneficial for us the last few years. If you are going to associate economic prosperity with tax cuts then you have to acknowledge the effect tax cuts have during an economic downturn. You can't pretend like suddenly they don't effect anything. When many people loose their jobs at once, like when the economy crashed, our the nation's tax revenue goes down. Regardless of how much money you put into your government, how large a government you have, a drastic reduction in revenue has consequences. That is why taxes historically go up for those who can afford it in time like these.
But my real point was that you are happy to acknowledge the jobs the Bush policies created, but seem oddly mum on the jobs his policy lost. I think it is odd that so many people contribute what happened in 2008 to Obama. He didn't take office until 2009, but most Republican arguments today seem to have conveniently forgotten this fact.
Try to understand this..
In order for tax cuts to be effective, YOU HAVE TO BE MAKING MONEY AND PAYING TAXES... how many businesses are laying off because they are not making money?
His policies are not responsible for losing jobs, unless you can list some of those policies which changed from 2006 - 2008.. Can you?
Fact is, Democrats came in and passed all sorts of bills, things like raising the minimum wage etc, (which Bush signed in error), which decreased profits and minimized any effect of tax cuts.. If they are LOSING money, then all of the tax cuts in the world isnt going to boost jobs..
Oh really? What they have said clearly is, Obamas agenda isn't it! What they have said clearly is that they do not want a "fundamental transformation of America" into a Marxist/socialist government. They do not want "redistribution of wealth" and they do not want "Obabamacare"
They want nothing to do with this so-called presidents agenda. What they want is freedom, less government, and less regulation.
Wake up!!! Do you 'get it', chump? Get a clue, buster. You lost. It's our turn now.
But not every Republican won in a landslide. And some didn't win at all. If Republicans think they have a clear okay to bring in policy too far to the right, they won't keep power for very long. The moderates will go back over to the other side. This country is made up with people of diverse political beliefs. To forget that would be to the Republican party's detriment.
But not every Republican won in a landslide. And some didn't win at all. If Republicans think they have a clear okay to bring in policy too far to the right, they won't keep power for very long. The moderates will go back over to the other side. This country is made up with people of diverse political beliefs. To forget that would be to the Republican party's detriment.
You dont need every republican to win in a landslide.. Obama didnt win in a landslide either, he won the popular vote by a very slim percentage.. That didnt stop Democrats from declaring a mandate was set by Democrats which they abused.
Try to understand this..
In order for tax cuts to be effective, YOU HAVE TO BE MAKING MONEY AND PAYING TAXES... how many businesses are laying off because they are not making money?
His policies are not responsible for losing jobs, unless you can list some of those policies which changed from 2006 - 2008.. Can you?
Fact is, Democrats came in and passed all sorts of bills, things like raising the minimum wage etc, (which Bush signed in error), which decreased profits and minimized any effect of tax cuts.. If they are LOSING money, then all of the tax cuts in the world isnt going to boost jobs..
Okay, to start with, the result of an election year is implemented the following year. 2006 is an entirely Republican controlled year. Just like Obama has nothing to do with anything until 2009.
Deregulation of the financial industry caused our economy to collapse. Fact is, that happened after 7 years of Bush policies. The repercussions of policys aren't immediate. Neither did the democratic legislature under Bush have the power to change the course of our nation. Bush darn near vetoed everything. If you think Bush and/or the Republicans had nothing to do with the collapse, you are fool. Even if you want to pretend that he had nothing to do with it, you have to at least concede he did nothing to stop it. I worked in the financial industry in 2005 and 2006. It was very obvious things were not sustainable in the housing industry, but the Republicans (because the Democrats showed up officially in 2007 so you can't blame them) did nothing about it. I'm not saying everything the Democrats did was wonderful, but don't pretend like we would have magically bounced back if the Republicans were still in power.
You seem to be the one misunderstanding me. It is the wealthiest among us who are making the money and paying the taxes in times of economic trouble, which is why you DON'T want to cut their taxes in a downturn. The argument that the wealthy can help our country get back on its feet is ridiculous because there are simply not enough of them. It would be more effective lower taxes for the middle class than for the wealthy. As for corporations, their taxes are some of the lowest in the world already. Jobs didn't leave our country simply because of taxes. They also left our county because apparently patriotism dos not extend to business owners when cheaper labor is available elsewhere. Cutting corporate taxes today won't create enough jobs at this point. It is more complicated than that.
You dont need every republican to win in a landslide.. Obama didnt win in a landslide either, he won the popular vote by a very slim percentage.. That didnt stop Democrats from declaring a mandate was set by Democrats which they abused.
You are absolutely right. And look at where that got him today. Unless the Republicans magically fix everything lickety-split, they are going to loose favor, just like Obama did.
AGAIN, a "presidential mandate" is an actual, calculated thing. That is why the word "mandate" can be associated with Obama.
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