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There are a number of charities and utility companies that help the low income afford utilities/coats/air conditioners. Perhaps people should do a better job taking care of their own family members and making certain they neither die from the heat nor freeze to death.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
Mankind has made it throughout most of his history on earth without utilities. They are a convenience that improves our quality of life be it comfort or production of goods and operation of medical equipment; but, they are not necessary for life. Utilities simply improve the odds for those who would not have been fit to survive otherwise.
I don't agree with that to this extent- the weather these days is much more extreme than it used to be. When I was a young kid, we did not have air conditioning in central Kansas. We had fans and, on the FEW days that it was just unbearably hot, you could sleep outside on the back porch. People did that back in the old days. But a day of 100 degree weather was very rare back then. Now it is common place for summers in central Kansas to have many days over 100 and some days over 110 degrees. And the same thing in the winter. When I was young, a day of 0 degrees was a very rare thing. Now temperatures go to minus 5 or lower and stay there for days sometimes. If you check weather records, I would bet that virtually all of them have been broken in the past 30 years. I recall this started in the summer of 1980 or 81 when there were like 30 days of 100 degrees. When I was young, if you had 2 in a summer was about average.
Also lots more people now reside in the southern tier of states.
Shouldn't everyone have access to free/low cost heating? Shouldn't everyone be able to turn their furnace up to 70...72 degrees in the wintertime regardless of heating costs?
Shouldn't everyone be able to set their AC to 68 in the summer regardless of their costs?
Should it matter how big/small our house is? Should it matter how much insulation we have or how good of windows/weatherizing we've done on our houses?
Personal responsibility should be irrelevant! There are people dying from lack of heat and cooling!
SOCIALISM! What would the for-profit oil and coal companies doooo
I don't agree with that to this extent- the weather these days is much more extreme than it used to be. When I was a young kid, we did not have air conditioning in central Kansas. We had fans and, on the FEW days that it was just unbearably hot, you could sleep outside on the back porch. People did that back in the old days. But a day of 100 degree weather was very rare back then. Now it is common place for summers in central Kansas to have many days over 100 and some days over 110 degrees. And the same thing in the winter. When I was young, a day of 0 degrees was a very rare thing. Now temperatures go to minus 5 or lower and stay there for days sometimes. If you check weather records, I would bet that virtually all of them have been broken in the past 30 years. I recall this started in the summer of 1980 or 81 when there were like 30 days of 100 degrees. When I was young, if you had 2 in a summer was about average.
Also lots more people now reside in the southern tier of states.
Bunch of malarky.
1. When you were young , you had a higher tolerance and because every media talking head's pie hole wasn't spewing how this is the SNOWSTORM of the century or the HEAT WAVE of the century and beating it it into your brain.
2. Weather record keeping is a fairly modern invention. Everything ebbs and flows ... if you had records of weather going back farther than 100 years, you'd be able to see that.
Shouldn't everyone have access to free/low cost heating? Shouldn't everyone be able to turn their furnace up to 70...72 degrees in the wintertime regardless of heating costs?
Shouldn't everyone be able to set their AC to 68 in the summer regardless of their costs?
Should it matter how big/small our house is? Should it matter how much insulation we have or how good of windows/weatherizing we've done on our houses?
Personal responsibility should be irrelevant! There are people dying from lack of heat and cooling!
People would waste energy if they didn't have to fully pay for it. But of course people freezing to death in the winter is unacceptable, too. I think in many of those cases, however, money is not so much of a problem as power outages. They really shouldn't happen in a country such as the US.
Shouldn't everyone have access to free/low cost heating? Shouldn't everyone be able to turn their furnace up to 70...72 degrees in the wintertime regardless of heating costs?
Shouldn't everyone be able to set their AC to 68 in the summer regardless of their costs?
Should it matter how big/small our house is? Should it matter how much insulation we have or how good of windows/weatherizing we've done on our houses?
Personal responsibility should be irrelevant! There are people dying from lack of heat and cooling!
My thermostat doesn't get about 68 during the winter.
No, it shouldn't be. There are already programs in place for people below a certain income level to help them pay, or pay completely for their basic utilities.
Maybe they should disconnect their phone and cable first.
If you can't pay your utility bill at your own home, perhaps government housing is where you should look.
If you want to spend more public money on utilities during the winter, ban all city/state/federal holiday decorations. How much money is spent on electricity for all of those Christmas decorations? How much money is spent paying city workers to go out and put them up, then take them down?
My thermostat doesn't get about 68 during the winter.
No, it shouldn't be. There are already programs in place for people below a certain income level to help them pay, or pay completely for their basic utilities.
Maybe they should disconnect their phone and cable first.
If you can't pay your utility bill at your own home, perhaps government housing is where you should look.
If you want to spend more public money on utilities during the winter, ban all city/state/federal holiday decorations. How much money is spent on electricity for all of those Christmas decorations? How much money is spent paying city workers to go out and put them up, then take them down?
The liberal mindset though would suggest that everyone has a right to affordable heat and cooling regardless of their thermostat setting or the condition of their home and furnace, wouldn't it?
I mean...it's not their fault their house is drafty....
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