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Old 11-13-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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And you should read the entire link that you post!

"After one year in office, and then at regular intervals, judges stand in retention elections. [2]"

Iowa Judges, like judges in many states, may be voted out, or ousted, after one year!

There is a process for getting rid of the "bad guys" folks!
So where does your comment that the ACLU probably ran a campaign to get them in stand?
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Old 11-13-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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So where does your comment that the ACLU probably ran a campaign to get them in stand?
I believe the ACLU which is a very large, extremely well-funded group, founded by a believer in socialism and very anti-traditional values is capable of putting pressure on an Appointing Committee. But, the good news for those who disagree with their states' judges and feel they are not ruling fairly, is that they have the power to vote them out after one year, which is what Iowa has done. I wonder how many people are aware of this and truly educate themselves when they go to the polls?
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Old 11-13-2010, 01:15 PM
 
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Some Super Liberal Judges seem to be bypassing the Constitution and/or ignoring the will of the people. We have seen this in Arizona, where the three judges from the 9th Circuit Court overruled Arizona's Law that required citizens to provide proof of citizenship when registering to vote. In Oklahoma, the voters recently voted in by 70% a law to proactively ban the use of any International Law, including Sharia Law within their state only to have it put on hold while the court weighs in on it at the request of CAIR. Now, three judges within the state of Iowa, who recently overruled the vote of their citizens regarding homosexual marriage, have been voted out of office!


Political Judges - Thomas Sowell - Townhall Conservative
Where were you when it was Bush V. Gore?? There's some activist jusdges and ignoring the will of the people.

Yeah yeah, I know bring up Bush, blah blah blah. The point is this person is complaining about liberal judges, stereotyping them as the only ones that are activists and the only ones that are out of touch. Its both sides. Blatant, obvious partisanship undermines credibility.
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Old 11-13-2010, 02:59 PM
 
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There is probably nothing more important than identifying activist judges and booting their butts out. One leftist wacko judge should not be able to overrule the will of the people and throw our votes in the trash.
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Old 11-13-2010, 03:05 PM
 
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There is probably nothing more important than identifying activist judges and booting their butts out. One leftist wacko judge should not be able to overrule the will of the people and throw our votes in the trash.
Absolutely. And, I don't think enough people are aware of this power at the polls. It's more difficult to do the research on the judges but it is possible and very important!!! Hope this story gets spread around and some of the others who try and overturn the will of the people change their ways or get the boot!
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Old 11-13-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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GottaBMe,

I suppose you also disagree with a 1943 federal court decision to allow school children to not salute the flag. 98% of Americans disagreed with that decision. Judges are not supposed to be swayed by politics.

In Iowa, probably more than half the population does not support the idea of gay marriage. The purpose of the Constitution is not to protect the majority views, it is to protect minority viewpoints against abuses of power by the majority. The most unpopular Constitutional decisions were made in cases where unpopular groups requested a ruling.

Although I do not like CAIR, they have just as much of a right to bring a lawsuit as you do if the elements are met.

You complain and moan when the Constitution is interpreted in a way which you don't like, but you are the first person to salute it when it is interpreted in a way you like.

If you have ever been arrested or detained, remember it was "activist" judges who said that the police must read you your Constitutional rights.

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Old 11-14-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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GottaBMe,

I suppose you also disagree with a 1943 federal court decision to allow school children to not salute the flag. 98% of Americans disagreed with that decision. Judges are not supposed to be swayed by politics.

In Iowa, probably more than half the population does not support the idea of gay marriage. The purpose of the Constitution is not to protect the majority views, it is to protect minority viewpoints against abuses of power by the majority. The most unpopular Constitutional decisions were made in cases where unpopular groups requested a ruling.

Although I do not like CAIR, they have just as much of a right to bring a lawsuit as you do if the elements are met.

You complain and moan when the Constitution is interpreted in a way which you don't like, but you are the first person to salute it when it is interpreted in a way you like.

If you have ever been arrested or detained, remember it was "activist" judges who said that the police must read you your Constitutional rights.
chitown85,

First of all, thank you for removing your "rude" comment.

As to "rights," that is exactly what my post was about. People in many, if not all, states have the right to vote out judges who they feel are not representing them. That is what the people did in Iowa during the last election. Unfortunately, judges are human and human beings are imperfect and thus, sometimes act in ways they are not "supposed" to. Nice to know that there is a mechanism in place to remove them from office if they are not representing the majority of people in their state. Seems like that is why the system was set up that way; i.e., to allow the majority of voters to periodically oust judges they feel are not representing them.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:17 AM
 
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chitown85,

First of all, thank you for removing your "rude" comment.

As to "rights," that is exactly what my post was about. People in many, if not all, states have the right to vote out judges who they feel are not representing them. That is what the people did in Iowa during the last election. Unfortunately, judges are human and human beings are imperfect and thus, sometimes act in ways they are not "supposed" to. Nice to know that there is a mechanism in place to remove them from office if they are not representing the majority of people in their state. Seems like that is why the system was set up that way; i.e., to allow the majority of voters to periodically oust judges they feel are not representing them.

I'd rather see judges just stick to judgments based on law.

Upholding law seems to be a rarity among judges these days.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:26 AM
 
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And you have no earthly clue that only legal arguments should determine a ruling and not political concerns.

But this is all part of being ignorant to how the legislative and judicial branches work in entirely different ways.

You are just fine with putting the Constitution up for majority vote as long as it will result in an outcome you agree with.

Then of course you'll whine about how much you respect the Constitution when it serves your purpose.
Please take some time and review what has been happening in Luzerne County Pa.
Pennsylvania rocked by 'jailing kids for cash' scandal - CNN
Call me a doubter but I doubt that these are the only judges who are motivated by things other than constitutional law.
Judges can and often are motivated by politics and their own philosophical beliefs. They are human... Why are some judges more willing than others to use maximum sentences and others loath to do so even in horrendous child abuse cases?
The fact is because they are human and most humans make decisions based on their personal beliefs.
In the case of Luzerne county they made dicisions based og a belief in personal greed.
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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And you have no earthly clue that only legal arguments should determine a ruling and not political concerns.

But this is all part of being ignorant to how the legislative and judicial branches work in entirely different ways.

You are just fine with putting the Constitution up for majority vote as long as it will result in an outcome you agree with.

Then of course you'll whine about how much you respect the Constitution when it serves your purpose.


You do realize the Constitution had to be ratified before it became the supreme law of the land, right?

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