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Old 11-14-2010, 03:52 AM
 
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Why not go ask the Somalis what happens when there is no centralised power?
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Old 11-14-2010, 04:48 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I don't need a government agency to tell me an airline has had 2 crashes in the last year. In plane crashes it is determined 85% of the time, the government inspectors are the one's that didn't do their jobs.
This inane statement alone is all that's needed to place your credibility level at zero.
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Old 11-14-2010, 04:53 AM
 
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No.
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:05 AM
 
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What does our government produce?

What does our government do that you need?
Seriously... What does the government do?

I can't think of a thing I need the government for.
Seriously remind me why they are there.
Infrastructure and defense.

Both are necessary functions of government.

Both are corrupted by politicians.

Remember, our government was formed with layers of protection to prevent one branch of government from becoming corrupted.

The breaking down of the constitution little by little over the years by politicians have weakened it and have caused the conditions that we now live in.

Every bill should pass the constitutional test.

No exceptions.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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Why not go ask the Somalis what happens when there is no centralised power?
Surely you are kidding, yes? The Somalis are God forsaken savages, incapable of caring about, working toward or even desiring a governmental structure.
They've been content to exist in their own hellish nightmare, relishing the lack of control or law which permits their depraved lifestyle to become the order of
the day. These are not people to use in an intelligent argument which deals with government. Now, if you'd like to discuss the missing link, well...
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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I have not heard one thing yet.

What do I need a government for? I am a sovereign individual.
Sure. And when a dozen other sovereign individuals show up to take what you thought was yours, you either fight it out on your own or you figure out the value of having an entity that lays down rules and enforces them.

In any organization - a business, a country, a military unit, a hospital - there's an element of administration and management which does not "produce".

I can't help but notice that you're complaining about government over the Internet (rooted in a DARPA project), using a browser (HTTP developed by Tim Berners-Lee while working for CERN) and the entire thing is, of course, running on a PC that's based on microchips, a technology developed for defense purposes with government funds.
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