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Old 11-20-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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Who will win out in the battle against health reform, the tea party/conservative base of the Republican Party or the Health Industry?

My thoughts are that Republicans will make a show of trying to repeal health reform, but will fail and then present the effort as a way to throw a bone to the base and then work to reshape health reform to benefit the health industry and businesses. I'm already hearing talk about getting rid of the 1099 sections of the bill or altering it, both Democrats and Republicans are in agreement on that provision. This will be interesting to watch.
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Old 11-20-2010, 03:00 PM
 
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Given the fact that the Tea Party supporters want real health care reform, not a health care industry windfall like we just saw Democrats pass against the American people... the HC industry is going to fight Tea Party supported Republicans no matter what they come up with. Will Democrats continue to fight to give more money to the HC industry or will they wake up and fight for the people they're supposed to serve?
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Old 11-20-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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Given the fact that the Tea Party supporters want real health care reform,
Well that's breaking news since I have NEVER read a single healthcare proposal or a single blithering idea come out of the mouths of the Teabaggers regarding healthcare other than death panels and the onset of socialism.
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Old 11-20-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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Well that's breaking news since I have NEVER read a single healthcare proposal or a single blithering idea come out of the mouths of the Teabaggers regarding healthcare other than death panels and the onset of socialism.
You need to learn how to pay attention then.

Of course, it will require you to stop the childish name calling so you can listen. Something most liberals are incapable of.
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Old 11-20-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Well that's breaking news since I have NEVER read a single healthcare proposal or a single blithering idea come out of the mouths of the Teabaggers regarding healthcare other than death panels and the onset of socialism.
It helps if you actually listen, or at least try to find sources a little less biased than Kos and HuffPo.

There are a lot of ideas out there. Perform some due diligence and you might actually find some of them. It's really not that hard.
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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I don't listen.... hmmm.

OK, ya got my attention, I'm listening, go for it. I'm all ears.
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Well that's breaking news since I have NEVER read a single healthcare proposal or a single blithering idea come out of the mouths of the Teabaggers regarding healthcare other than death panels and the onset of socialism.
Watch, and learn....!
You've been on the wrongside so long, now the good guys are in charge...sit back, relax and watch the USA regain it's former glory...!!
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:48 PM
 
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Watch, and learn....!
You've been on the wrongside so long, now the good guys are in charge...sit back, relax and watch the USA regain it's former glory...!!
Ah, so it isn't about listening its about watching... next you'll present the Tea Bag health proposals by sense of smell. Can't wait.

PS-about that losing side thing... I'll bet you a dime to a dollar that despite a step backwards here and there that over the course of this countries 200 year history, progress has won more times than stasis and I've never been one for stasis.
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Old 11-20-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Ah, so it isn't about listening its about watching... next you'll present the Tea Bag health proposals by sense of smell. Can't wait.

PS-about that losing side thing... I'll bet you a dime to a dollar that despite a step backwards here and there that over the course of this countries 200 year history, progress has won more times than stasis and I've never been one for stasis.
Your answer makes no sense, like you're listening to a different channel... Are you OK... I'm worried..
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Old 11-20-2010, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Who will win out in the battle against health reform, the tea party/conservative base of the Republican Party or the Health Industry?

My thoughts are that Republicans will make a show of trying to repeal health reform, but will fail and then present the effort as a way to throw a bone to the base and then work to reshape health reform to benefit the health industry and businesses. I'm already hearing talk about getting rid of the 1099 sections of the bill or altering it, both Democrats and Republicans are in agreement on that provision. This will be interesting to watch.
Getting rid of the 1099 provision of the bill, is simply a diversion. The 1099's are in the Law to help generate funds to pay for the extension of covered people. It would rquire companies to create documentation of payments to people for $500 or less. There are a large number of people recieving these payments, specifically kept below the threshold to avoid taxes on that income. If it were occurring very infrequently, that might not be so much of a problem. But, it happens many time throughout the year. Now, you may object to people being taxed on their legitimate, but I don't object to that. The addition funds gained from this would help in covering some of the cost of the new system. It would create an additional burden on the companies, so the question is, is it worth that. Or could there be an electronic method of reporting that transaction, so that it wouldn't be a huge burden? I don't know, it would need to be evaluated.
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