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And that's precisely why I proposed sending Coast Guardsmen down there. They'd actually be of some use, unlike every other branch. I don't know how most puddle pirates would cope with having to run all over deserts all day, but I'm sure they could get used to it.
Simple solution, give the US Border Patrol military status, merge it with the US Coast Guard and rename it to the US Border Guard Service.
Require all existing US Border Patrol agents to under go basic military training, be familiar with the basic light infantry tactics and small arms such as the M16 rifle/M4 carbine, M249 SAW, M240 light machine gun, M203 grenade launcher, AT4 antitank rocket launcher, Stinger SAM, etc. Specialized units of the Border Guard Service will have light artillery, mortars, armored vehicles, armed patrol vessels (the former US Coast Guard would form the maritime component), and armed aircraft/helicopters.
Problem solved, we now have a military force that is not a military force and a way around the archaic Posse Commitaus Act. It's sort of what China did when they created the People's Armed Police as an alternative to using the People's Liberation Army following the mass outrage after they used tanks to run over the protesters in Tinnaniman Square. Practically every nation on Earth has an equivalent - French Gendarmerie, Italian Carabinieri, Spanish Guardia Civil, Russian Internal Troops, Dutch Royal Marechausee, Portuguese Guardia Nacional Republicana, the police in most 3rd world nations, etc all have significant military capabilities even though they are technically considered police forces.
Wiki is easy enough...
Face it folks... it's for your own protection. A protection having nothing to do with Mexico.
"from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act ".
From how I read your posting using the military on the border is NOT using the militarty to, "exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property."
The federal gov't is suing Arizona for using state law enforcement at the border. They say the border is a federal resposibility not state.
The military would be enforcing federal law on the border which is federal property, not state. It seems to me you, not you personally, can't have it both ways.
Your post also says, "except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress'". So Congress CAN authorize military use within the US.
What about, "provide for the common defence". If we are being invaded by illegals isn't that "being invaded'? And isn't that a responsibility of the military to "defend" our border?
Simple solution, give the US Border Patrol military status, merge it with the US Coast Guard and rename it to the US Border Guard Service.
Require all existing US Border Patrol agents to under go basic military training, be familiar with the basic light infantry tactics and small arms such as the M16 rifle/M4 carbine, M249 SAW, M240 light machine gun, M203 grenade launcher, AT4 antitank rocket launcher, Stinger SAM, etc. Specialized units of the Border Guard Service will have light artillery, mortars, armored vehicles, armed patrol vessels (the former US Coast Guard would form the maritime component), and armed aircraft/helicopters.
Problem solved, we now have a military force that is not a military force and a way around the archaic Posse Commitaus Act. It's sort of what China did when they created the People's Armed Police as an alternative to using the People's Liberation Army following the mass outrage after they used tanks to run over the protesters in Tinnaniman Square. Practically every nation on Earth has an equivalent - French Gendarmerie, Italian Carabinieri, Spanish Guardia Civil, Russian Internal Troops, Dutch Royal Marechausee, Portuguese Guardia Nacional Republicana, the police in most 3rd world nations, etc all have significant military capabilities even though they are technically considered police forces.
Guess he figures defending our borders is no longer a high priority, we have enhanced pat downs from the TSA now.
We all know that he reluctantly put agents on the borders in order to save himself and help the Democrats during mid-terms. Now that the mid-terms are over and the Democrats took a beating he can remove the agents and go back to not caring about protecting our borders while Americans continue to be treated like criminals by TSA agents.
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act.
Face it folks... it's for your own protection. A protection having nothing to do with Mexico.
When gun-toting humans from a foreign country (and Mexico is a foreign country) invade our borders and attack our people I would think that could be considered an "act of ingression" at least and "act of war" at most and NOT a police action!
This human filth cuts off heads, kidnaps, murders, flood drugs into our country and so much more. All of it a threat to our nation and our citizens.
IMHO...kill every one of them! We sure aren't going to "rehabilitate" them! How many terrorists are crossing our border undetected? We have the capability to take care of this...do we have the guts to do it?
What about, "provide for the common defence". If we are being invaded by illegals isn't that "being invaded'? And isn't that a responsibility of the military to "defend" our border?
The Posse Comitatus bit was copied directly from the Wiki.
As far as Arizona, the federal government does control a portion of that border. Much of the border in Texas is owned by ranchers and others. I'm sure the federal government would be glad to see them surrender that property... for its own protection. Yeah, right.
I would imagine that when 'gun toting humans from a foreign country invade our borders' that Congress should be responsible enough to take action. You know, the people we hired to administrate the country.
We're all born from immigrants. We don't need to close the borders or kill people, we need to make it easier to legally enter the country before we can crack down on illegal entry.
Am i the only one that thinks it's absurd that we'll let a European in no problem but Mexicans get turned down all the time? I'm from Texas, and I actually know a couple illegals. They aren't bad people, or lazy, or unsupportive of America. They just wanted to leave Mexico, because it sucks compared to the US.
Not to mention, something like 76% (I'm recalling this from memory, so give or a take a bit) of farm jobs are worked by illegal immigrants. That sounds bad, but really, what American is going to work SEASONAL labor for minimum wage? You kidding me? Most illegals don't take jobs that we would work otherwise, in fact, in an article i read a couple months ago, a farmer was talking about he just flat couldn't find American labor for his farm. At all.
Right now, we're Rome, and we're too good for that kind of work. We'll complain about the barbarians cleaning our houses and farming our food, but we won't do it ourselves.
Besides all that, I think illegal immigrants represent something like just under 4% of the labor force in America. That's not much, if you didn't know.
The myth that most agriculture workers are illegal aliens has been debunked repeatedly. Even if true, it still wouldn’t justify our porous borders. However, you have it backwards. An estimated 76% of workers in the agriculture industry are citizens and legal residents. In fact only 2-4% of illegal aliens are picking crops, which means a whopping 96-98% are working jobs Americans WILL do if paid a decent wage.
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The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that undocumented workers represent about 5% of the U.S. non-military work force, and a high portion of laborers in certain fields, including 29% of roofers, 24% of agricultural workers and 25% of construction laborers.
Illegal immigrants can be found working in many sectors of the U.S. economy. About 3 percent work in agriculture; 33 percent have jobs in service industries; and substantial numbers can be found in construction and related occupations (16 percent) and in production, installation and repair (17 percent).
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