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Old 11-22-2010, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
All while tax revenue continues to fall...

And it is a certainty that tax revenue will decrease if tax rates are raised. That happens every time. Historical fact. Pages 249 and 250, here:
Economics - Google Books

No. That's why it has to end.
Really, a certainty? If taxes were to rise for the 98%, you may be correct. I don't know that you can say that if only the upper 2% see increases. In fact, I seriously doubt that would be the case.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:51 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It is obvious that you have never gone through the steps to recieve disability
You would be mistaken. I have direct knowledge of the situation, having worked with the documentation side of the process.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:52 PM
 
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That is not entirely true. I went thru the process at 58. It took about 7-8 months and was not automatically denied. It also did not require an advocate or Atty. If you have all the pertinent info, supporting Doctors evaluations and records, it is quite easy to get thru. If there is little question as to the justification, it works well.
Exactly. Thanks, bob.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:55 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Okay... more s-l-o-w-l-y this time so you'll understand... The benefits described in the minimum wage earner column are those available to single head-of-household families, hence the family of 3 instead of 4. Note the family of 4 earning $60,000 is not eligible for any of the benefits listed (in black) due to their earnings, so any claim of inaccuracy due to family size is irrelevant as the comparison of childcare cost for 2 children (in red) is consistent between the 2 columns.

The article's title may contain an error, but the facts in the chart and the analysis are accurate. Direct quote from article: "a one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year."

It may contain an error? There's NO doubt it does, the question is WHERE? And why should we take the rest as gospel? Nope, ain't buyin', especially since it's unclear whether that $60K includes benefits or they just felt better ignoring what amount they might be.

It's nothing more than political blather, facts optional.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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What should be more telling, is that it takes an income of $60k to escape poverty.
Actually, as the chart shows, $60k is not enough to even have at least the same amount of disposable income as a single head-of-household minimum wage earner. And people wonder why the recent poll showed that 39% believe marriage is outdated. Of course they do... they qualify for more freebie benefits as a single.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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In kind payments, NSLP, Medicaid and CHIP, Rent Subsidies and LIHEAP, can not be included in any estimate of disposable income.
Why not? The recipient is gaining the financial benefit of such.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:04 PM
 
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you are not informed, informedconsent. yes, it is unusual. why do you spread this propaganda? there is no way people are recieving 6000 dollars in food stamps.
And yet the Pennsylvania document I linked disproves your ridiculous claim, directly.

Get a clue.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:05 PM
 
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Really, a certainty? If taxes were to rise for the 98%, you may be correct. I don't know that you can say that if only the upper 2% see increases. In fact, I seriously doubt that would be the case.
Not familiar with economics, huh bob?
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:07 PM
 
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It may contain an error? There's NO doubt it does, the question is WHERE?
The article title, as I've said.

I see you have been unable to disprove any of the data in the chart.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Not familiar with economics, huh bob?
Actually, I am...
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