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Old 11-29-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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If Israel wanted to put an end to the Tea party they could. But the Tea Party is pretty harmless and can't get anything done. They can talk all they want but at the end of the day Israel owns the Republican party.

 
Old 11-29-2010, 04:58 PM
 
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Israel's existence is an annoyance to the extremist of its neighboring countries. If Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinian people and all the other Arab nations (who have not signed peace agreements with Israel) would accept the reality of Israel's existence without having any agenda that includes Israel's destruction then Israel wouldn't need the USA's unconditional support to defend itself.
I recall a PBS documentary about a kindergarten in Israel where Israeli children and Palestinian children were being reared to see each other as human beings working out their socialization skills as equals. Children out of the hands of politics became dearest friends, each retaining their respective faiths. The story concluded when this kindergarten became a target for terrorism. Message to the broader community- if you attempt to live in harmony we will annihilate everything you hold dear.

I ask you to identify who the terrorist was. It could have been a Zionist frustrated that Jewish 'purity' in the culture failed to abide, or it could have been a Palestinian extremist aghast that purist Palestinian blood could align themselves with 'their oppressor'. The elements from both sides who have no intention of getting along or abiding respectful agreements being given license to disrupt not just a nation, not just a region, but the entire planet- infinitely??? Think.
 
Old 11-29-2010, 05:10 PM
 
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ISTR some prominent evangelical Republicans threatening to stop supporting Israel due to US Jews voting Dem and favoring backing the Palestinians instead. And given that Israel persecutes Christians and destroys Palestinian Christian churches, I wouldn't be surprised if they did abandon support for Israel.
See the collective work of RW sources addressing everything you've mentioned and the next thing trotting down the pike from them will be selling the idea of Christian ownership of Israel. They'd rather die than see Jerusalem in the hands of Islam. Even if it destroys America, because after all, we ARE a "Christian" nation. God's flag trumps American flag. Right?
 
Old 11-29-2010, 05:23 PM
 
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That is your misguided perception. Do some research.
One such new candidate, Rand Paul, has already given his position on earmarks and cutting the deficit. Probably the most interviewed of all the new Tea Party candidates and you still made that silly all encompassing comment.
Take the blinders off and listen to not only what they say but how they vote. Only then can one make an informed decision.
The Tea party did not give birth to Rand Paul, or Ron Paul, or Libertarian positions. It is YOU riding on their coat tails, not the other way around. Get over yourselves. You were the very same people installing malevolence like Delay and Bush at the EXPENSE of Ron Paul positions. Lie to yourselves forever but you're in for disappointment if you believe the rest of us owe you credence.
 
Old 11-29-2010, 05:32 PM
 
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I ask you to identify who the terrorist was. It could have been a Zionist frustrated that Jewish 'purity' in the culture failed to abide, or it could have been a Palestinian extremist aghast that purist Palestinian blood could align themselves with 'their oppressor'. The elements from both sides who have no intention of getting along or abiding respectful agreements being given license to disrupt not just a nation, not just a region, but the entire planet- infinitely??? Think.
I agree that on both sides there are extremists who will not allow peace to happen in the region. I don't see any change in the situation in the foreseeable future.
 
Old 11-29-2010, 05:34 PM
 
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ISTR some prominent evangelical Republicans threatening to stop supporting Israel due to US Jews voting Dem and favoring backing the Palestinians instead. And given that Israel persecutes Christians and destroys Palestinian Christian churches, I wouldn't be surprised if they did abandon support for Israel.
You could please give us a source that shows Israel destroying Palestinian Christian churches.
 
Old 11-29-2010, 05:37 PM
 
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See the collective work of RW sources addressing everything you've mentioned and the next thing trotting down the pike from them will be selling the idea of Christian ownership of Israel. They'd rather die than see Jerusalem in the hands of Islam. Even if it destroys America, because after all, we ARE a "Christian" nation. God's flag trumps American flag. Right?
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. It was also the capital of Israel in Biblical times before Islam even existed. So it is understandable why Israel will not give it up.
 
Old 11-29-2010, 05:40 PM
 
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You could please give us a source that shows Israel destroying Palestinian Christian churches.
I don't know about Palestinian christian churches but Israel did attack their christian allies in Lebanon.
 
Old 11-29-2010, 05:42 PM
 
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I agree that on both sides there are extremists who will not allow peace to happen in the region. I don't see any change in the situation in the foreseeable future.
Which is exactly why the United States should mind our own business and assume a neutral position in the conflict. Arming israel will never serve the purpose of peace.

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Old 11-29-2010, 05:54 PM
 
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Te isrealis have no more control over the tea party than the communist did over the hippie movement in the 60's. That is what really worries politicans is that they can not control it because its a movement not a party they can bargain with.
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