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Please help me with this . I thought Democrats wrote the whole bill ? My friend made that statement and I was speechless .
She also thinks tort reform is in the bill , I will not be reading it anytime soon but its not is it ?
I am not able to find good answers on the web . If you know a site with the answers please post it . Or try to answer yourself.
Thank you !
Absolute bologna. Democrats wrote it and voted for it. They got no Republican votes.
Nothing but slamming from the right with nothing intelligent to say, how original
Otherwise to OP your friend is in the right area, the republican's wanted nothing to do with it, and not one voted in favor. The main problem was the republicans with a (D) next to their name (blue dogs) were holding up the bill. Single payer would have been the best option as the healthcare plan, but Obama is too centrist to support this approach. The public option also wouldn't get the votes to pass and the only way to get the republicans in blue to side with the bill and the republicans not to filibuster it was to load it with pork for big insurance and make the plan completely privatized. In the end we ended up with a watered down bowl of gruel that started off as a fine souffle'.
Just another example of how big insurance has the right paid off, as well as many on the left. Corporatism at it's finest.
Nothing but slamming from the right with nothing intelligent to say, how original
Otherwise to OP your friend is in the right area, the republican's wanted nothing to do with it, and not one voted in favor. The main problem was the republicans with a (D) next to their name (blue dogs) were holding up the bill. Single payer would have been the best option as the healthcare plan, but Obama is too centrist to support this approach. The public option also wouldn't get the votes to pass and the only way to get the republicans in blue to side with the bill and the republicans not to veto it was to load it with pork for big insurance and make the plan completely privatized. In the end we ended up with a watered down bowl of gruel that started off as a fine souffle'.
Just another example of how big insurance has the right paid off, as well as many on the left. Corporatism at it's finest.
Nothing but slamming from the right with nothing intelligent to say, how original
Otherwise to OP your friend is in the right area, the republican's wanted nothing to do with it, and not one voted in favor. The main problem was the republicans with a (D) next to their name (blue dogs) were holding up the bill. Single payer would have been the best option as the healthcare plan, but Obama is too centrist to support this approach. The public option also wouldn't get the votes to pass and the only way to get the republicans in blue to side with the bill and the republicans not to veto it was to load it with pork for big insurance and make the plan completely privatized. In the end we ended up with a watered down bowl of gruel that started off as a fine souffle'.
Just another example of how big insurance has the right paid off, as well as many on the left. Corporatism at it's finest.
Didn't a number of those folks with a D next to their name get pink slips in November?
I'm sure BO would have been delighted to stick us with single payer.
About 40% of it was rewritten with changes Republicans said they wanted in the bill plus the entire central premise of the bill was the 1992 Republican health care proposal which Mitt Romney put in place in Massachusetts when he was governor. The one thing liberal democrats truly pushed for (and which 78% of Americans agreed we should have gotten) was a public option to buy into Medicare at cost; that would have been the biggest cost containment proposal of the bill but Republicans & corporatist Democrats worked together to kill the public option.
There are three states where there is literally only one health insurance company in the whole state so there is no market competition, the majority of states have only 2-3 health insurance providers so this oligopoly market structure has little and very inefficient competitive pressures, and giving people the option to buy into Medicare at cost would have instantly created nonprofit competition in all 50 states thus helping to keep health care costs lower then they would other wise have been. It's not surprising that the insurance lobby didn't want real competition or that Republicans & corporatist Democrats worked behind the scenes to prevent any new competition being part of the bill. It just goes to show that even when almost 80% of the American people want something the lobbyists are still the ones who control the government and we the people don't count for much.
Didn't a number of those folks with a D next to their name get pink slips in November?
I'm sure BO would have been delighted to stick us with single payer.
No Obama doesn't want single payer for the same reason any other high level politician doesn't want it: their corporate paymasters won't allow it. Obama's not a communist, a socialist, hell he's barely even liberal, he's a corporatist and an opportunist. Just like Palin, McCain, Bush, etc. If more people would wake up to this fact we'd be better off for it. However most people buy the myth that Democrats and Republicans have meaningful differences.
About 40% of it was rewritten with changes Republicans said they wanted in the bill plus the entire central premise of the bill was the 1992 Republican health care proposal which Mitt Romney put in place in Massachusetts when he was governor. The one thing liberal democrats truly pushed for (and which 78% of Americans agreed we should have gotten) was a public option to buy into Medicare at cost; that would have been the biggest cost containment proposal of the bill but Republicans & corporatist Democrats worked together to kill the public option.
There are three states where there is literally only one health insurance company in the whole state so there is no market competition, the majority of states have only 2-3 health insurance providers so this oligopoly market structure has little and very inefficient competitive pressures, and giving people the option to buy into Medicare at cost would have instantly created nonprofit competition in all 50 states thus helping to keep health care costs lower then they would other wise have been. It's not surprising that the insurance lobby didn't want real competition or that Republicans & corporatist Democrats worked behind the scenes to prevent any new competition being part of the bill. It just goes to show that even when almost 80% of the American people want something the lobbyists are still the ones who control the government and we the people don't count for much.
Great great post! I wish some people would get that instead of crying "socialism" anytime something with the word "public" is invoked.
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