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Old 12-03-2010, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I understand from reading an article that the State Dept was given the opportunity to see the documents before they were leaked and declined. They could have spoken up but they chose not to.
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Old 12-04-2010, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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When Ron Paul, lets a journalist sit in on every meeting with a supporter, contributor, fellow member of Congress, or staff member, be they congressional or campaign, call me.
lol That's a silly statement. Transparency is always best. No more "we know whats good for you mentality". Our elected officials represent us, there is no reason for them to keep secrets from us unless it is a security issue. Not some made up all encompassing emergency clause the government has been known to use either. There are not that many emergencies in the life of a drama queen.
Lincoln had it right when he said "I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts."
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Old 12-04-2010, 06:21 AM
 
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lol That's a silly statement. Transparency is always best. No more "we know whats good for you mentality". Our elected officials represent us, there is no reason for them to keep secrets from us unless it is a security issue. Not some made up all encompassing emergency clause the government has been known to use either. There are not that many emergencies in the life of a drama queen.
Lincoln had it right when he said "I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts."
If everyone knows, then the information is not as valuable to the secret parties. Goldman, Jp Morgan, Halliburton, JPL, etc..

Our state dept. is nothing more than a commerce center for special groups of people in the banking, military, and gov't sectors.

No wonder the world hates America. Our ambassadors and representatives manipulate, and use every other country for selfish greedy purposes, and then if they don't get what they want. They send in our honorable "kept in the dark" soldiers to do their dirty work.

What a scam, what a shame.
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You say that you don't read American msm, well this is what the Guardian Unlimited had to say in part regarding your comparison of Assange to the likes of a Woodward and Berstein.
"Forty years ago, the Nixon administration fought the New York Times all the way to the Supreme Court to stop the Pentagon Papers. The heart of that case was that Washington was doing one thing – expanding the Vietnam war – in private and another – denying it – in public. Secrecy was a shield behind which wars were waged and crimes committed. This time, as the New York Times's Max Frankel has pointed out, the secrecy is often silly and the impact on the US far less discreditable. Yes, the US has things to apologise for. But much of the secret material shows rather little difference between what the US says publicly and what these papers show privately.
WikiLeaks Cables: Verdict on America | Editorial | Comment is free | The Guardian
Yet there were people in the US Government so keen to keep their secrets that they performed illegal activities (secret wiretapping) and planned acts to discredit him in public. These men thankfully were later convicted in Watergate. Rather than defend and/or apologize the outcome, the government went after the messenger.

If that were to happen today..I think the people would side with the government and condemn the messenger.

Daniel Ellsberg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: On Top
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PayPal permanently suspended WikiLeak's account....no problem I'll send them a cheque!

"PayPal has permanently restricted the account used by WikiLeaks due to a violation of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity. We've notified the account holder of this action,'' Reuters quoted PayPal as saying in a statement.

PayPal suspends WikiLeaks donations account | Reuters
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:04 AM
 
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Default Newest WIKILEAKS threat-Dec.5

Breaking News:The Doomsday Files Assange Will... | Gather

This guy is a high-tech terrorist.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:09 AM
 
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Does he scare you?
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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HOLD THE PHONE! IT IS A THREAT! FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!

'Cause, he is going to release info on the banks..........



that you just bailed out.

Protect the banks information from being released to the American public at all cost.

In case they find out information...................about what they are really doing...

yeah, and how much do you get paid for this?

Maybe this time, people will hear a little more about places like Darfur. What exactly are we trying to protect here? You?
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Interesting.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Does he scare you?
No....he pisses me off. The guy ought to be in prison. Now it seems he's wanted in Sweden for unrelated rape charges. What a nice guy.

To bad Jason Bourne isn't a real person. This would be a great job for him.
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